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#17 of 56 by conflicted

Oct 08, 2003 (8:32 am)

Actually, the Mazda3 hatch is listed on the Canadian site as having 484.2L in the cargo area (rear seats up).
 
This would make it a larger cargo area than the Matrix has.
 
In outside volume, the Mazda3 hatch is larger than the Pro5 and similar in total volume to the Aerio, Impreza and Matrix, which have total cargo volumes between 1500 L and 1700 L. So the Mazda3 really should have a total cargo volume similar to those (rear seats down).
 
So those Euro spec numbers (300L/635L) are incredibly low. They must be using a different measurement methodology than we use in NA.

#18 of 56 Can those figures be right? by autohound1

Oct 08, 2003 (8:36 am)

It doesn't seem possible that the 6 wagon is only slightly larger than the 6 hatchback both w/ seats up & down. I would expect the wagon to show a more significant capacity than the hatch. Does anyone know how they conduct the measurements?

#19 of 56 by conflicted

Oct 08, 2003 (8:55 am)

Actually, the Mazda3 hatch is listed on the Canadian site as having 484.2L in the cargo area (rear seats up).
 
This would make it a larger cargo area than the Matrix has.
 
In outside volume, the Mazda3 hatch is larger than the Pro5 and similar in total volume to the Aerio, Impreza and Matrix, which have total cargo volumes between 1500 L and 1700 L. So the Mazda3 really should have a total cargo volume similar to those (rear seats down).
 
So those Euro spec numbers (300L/635L) are incredibly low. They must be using a different measurement methodology than we use in NA.

#20 of 56 cargo capacity by mazda6s

Oct 08, 2003 (9:08 am)

For those of us that are metrically-challenged, here are bluong's figures in Cu.Ft.:
Mazda3 Hatch: 10.6/22.4
Mazda6 Hatch: 17.4/58.7
Mazda6 Wagon: 17.8/60.5
 
But like somebody pointed out, these are the Euro measurements and may not be the same as how we do it on our side of the ocean. They don't look right to me and I will wait for the official North American measurements.

#21 of 56 elevated deck by creakid1

Oct 08, 2003 (10:31 am)

"It doesn't seem possible that the 6 wagon is only slightly larger than the 6 hatchback both w/ seats up & down. I would expect the wagon to show a more significant capacity than the hatch. Does anyone know how they conduct the measurements?"
 
The 3 hatch's rear deck is raised for a flatter cargo floor when seats are folded. & there's another layer of secret compartment underneath. The sedan doesn't & has a lower trunk floor.
 
Maybe the 6 hatch & wagon got a similar difference.

#22 of 56 Cargo volumes. by mazdafun

Oct 08, 2003 (12:47 pm)

Those euro specs look like they're only to the tops of the rear seat's back (or up to the bottom of the modesty cover), which is the way it should be rated.
 
However, in NA, most mfrs rate cargo volume up to the roof. Mazda played honestly to begin with on the P5's rating and got beat about the head in the market 'cause almost everyone rates cargo as stuffed up to the headliner. They switched to this method later to provide more comparable measurements.

#23 of 56 Measurement methods by boxfan

Oct 08, 2003 (1:48 pm)

I remember seeing a review or comparo (I can't remember what web site it was on) that said the Impreza wagon (WRX wagon/Outback Sport) had twice the cargo volume that the P5 had. That's absurd. Obviously they were looking at measurements taken different ways and didn't think about the numbers for a second.
 
If you measure up to the level of the back seat, then it would make sense that the 6 hatchback and wagon would have similar numbers. Measuring up to the roof would be different.
 
johncline:"The 6 hatch will almost certainly cost much more than the 6 wagon. It also will have many more standard features, if it is marketed at all as it is in Europe and the rest of the world." That may be true, but from audi8q's post on the 6 board, the wagon will be only available as a V6, whereas the hatch will be 50% 4-cyl, so the cheapest option might be a 4-cyl hatch.
 
The hatchback should be lighter, so the 4-cyl hatch will give you better mileage with similar performance as the 6-cyl wagon. At least with the stickshift. And I think MOST of the time, the hatch will be just as utilitarian as a wagon would be. I guess on a long trip, with people in the back seat and a huge box or a lot of luggage, you'd need the wagon.

#24 of 56 No SAB/SAC on the Mazda3 ??? by mazda6s

Oct 10, 2003 (1:16 pm)

I see they are not offering SAB/SAC on the Mazda3 in Canada. If that happens in the US I will dropping the Mazda3 from my short list. I'll just wait til they get the rust problem fixed on the Mazda6.

#25 of 56 ABS and SAB/SC by bluong1

Oct 10, 2003 (1:30 pm)

should be offered in US as an package. Please see the info we know so far here:
 
http://groups.msn.com/BrunoLuong/ustrimsandprices.msnw

#26 of 56 Bruno by mazda6s

Oct 10, 2003 (1:47 pm)

Yeah, I guess the preliminary specs dor Canada didn't list the SAB/SAC so it's no surprize.
 
OK, the Mazda3 stays on my list for now. Do you think the BP5 is still as pictured in your photo for the US? I'm thinking Strato Blue with BP5 interior. Is Strato Blue 27E as you listed or 25E as it shows at:
http://www.mazda.de/drive/mazda3/mazda3_farben.asp?modelname=2.0l- - +Sport+To
 

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