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#458 of 2924 Mustang opens the door to . . .
Apr 07, 2004 (3:30 am)
. . the possibility of a new L-M Cougar.
Why couldn’t Ford / L-M take the development that WAS already done on a higher end Mustang, and create a new Cougar. (OK, probably another name . . )
Significant development was reportedly done on a mustang based on the LS / DEW98 platform. Take that and develop something that really could shove L-M forward in de-defining the Brand.
A better suspension, in real world driving than likely will be offered with strut front and live axle rear suspensions. (I have read that the struts were selected partly because of space limitations – in addition to mfg. Cost. I’ll bet Lincoln engineers could creatively address this.) I do understand the ‘drag strip’ = live axle point of view, through I don’t necessarily agree.
Pull the 6-speed from Jag and add SST – bring Mark K. back to do the software!!!!!!!!!!!!! (And at the same time, sort of 'sneak' it onto the option list for the LS!)
Make the interior somewhat more upscale in styling and materials.
Develop specific roofline styling that will allow offering a sun- / moon-roof.
Etc, etc., etc.
[The Cougars on the 1994 or so time frame, as I recall, had IRS, for instance. And under the skin, that generation Cougar was largely a Thunderbird, as I recall. Hmmmm . . .]
Well, if L-M thinks they can make this sort of thing work by starting with the F150 – Why not????
Ford can still sell oodles of Mustangs in something close to their traditional price range, and L-M can defray the costs of some future mechanical enhancements to DEW98 / LS by spreading the development costs across a larger total sales volume.
Just deamin’, I suppose . . .
Apr 07, 2004 (6:12 am)
I've owned a couple of G.T.'s, one of them was an 85, the last year of the carburetor. Anyone remember kicking in the 4 barrel, getting shoved back in the seat and that sound, that ungodly sound.
Anyway, since the 05 is retro themed, a useless but interesting feature would be a program in the car's computer that simulates a 4bbl. Driver could push a button and change the feel from f.i to carbed.
#460 of 2924 Carb simulator
Apr 07, 2004 (6:32 am)
"Driver could push a button and change the feel from f.i to carbed. "
Choice to simulate a big 4-bbl - or 4 twin choke webbers???
And you could 'flood it' - heat soak it . . . simulate a choke stuck open.
Spent way too long trying to 'tune' sidedraft SU carbs . . .
#461 of 2924 I had an '86, the first year for EFI.....
Apr 07, 2004 (6:56 am)
'86s were a little down on power from '85s with the big carb atop the 5 liter but were much smoother running, esp when cold, and better on gas.
'86-on Mustangs were widely considered better cars for having EFI rather than carbs.
If you're looking to simulate that kick in the butt surge when the secondaries come in, try a turbocharged car.
#462 of 2924 I said change the feel of f.i., not the efficiency.
Apr 07, 2004 (8:20 am)
The efficiency and power of fuel injection with the sound and feel of a 4bbl. The variable valve timing might give a suggestion of this.
#463 of 2924 My next car?
Apr 07, 2004 (9:27 am)
I'm almost positive that my next car will be a 2005 Mustang. I'm ready for a new car but I've decided to wait until the 05 Mustangs are out. I currently own a 1999 Celica GT - I had a '93 Celica before this one. I really love the Celica for many reasons: reliability - I've never had a problem with either car; power - I can always count on it in any situation; style - the 93 and 99 are great looking cars but I'm not wild about the newer model Celicas. Anyway, I think it's time for a change. I've often thought about getting a Mustang (my dream car was a 1966 Mustang convertible - red with white leather interior - ohhhhh yeaaahhh!) then I'd hear about how unreliable they are. But I think I'm going to get a 2005 Mustang anyway. I'd love to hear from some of you car buffs who might be able to offer some insight into how the Celica compares to the Mustang.
Apr 07, 2004 (2:40 pm)
BMW uses struts in the front suspension on several of their current production vehicles, so a strut front suspension doesn't have to be a bad or low-tech thing. It just depends on how it is designed and set up.
Apr 07, 2004 (3:19 pm)
Celicas are great cars, and in fact were designed originally to be quasi-competitors of the Mustang.
I like the new Celicas (WITHOUT that horrid body kit), and a GT-S without a spoiler (rare) is a nice sight to my eyes. Very "1960s GT racecar." And the early 90s (?) Celica All-Trac was and still is a really fun car.
However, 2 things really differentiate the Mustang from the Celica: low rpm torque and rwd.
Mustang torque is instant and immense; Celicas have to be revved pretty high to bring on significant power. If you like your Celica's power, you will LOVE the Mustang's...
RWD makes a big difference in the character of the car and how it handles; rwd cars feel more balanced due to the better weight distribution, and they accelerate in a more controlled (i.e. no torque steer) fashion. There's a reason why most Euro sportscars are rwd.
#466 of 2924 Like a Carb????
Apr 07, 2004 (5:02 pm)
Don't forget the Vapor Lock too.....interesting feature to retro....
Apr 08, 2004 (6:27 am)
Seemed like an easy concept to grasp. I should have known better.