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#450 of 2921 Not PINTO
Apr 06, 2004 (1:32 pm)
Don't you all think that the shortened Mustang 2 of early-mid 70's was closer to a Pinto?
With the 05, it seems that Ford Company was trying to go back to the "classic" real Mustang fastback of eras 65-66, 67-68, 69-70. The show car that was prelude to the 05 was cleaner and truer to the classic. If McQueen were alive and not so old, he probably would have waited till 2004 to make Bullitt II with the 05 Mustang or 05 show car equivalent.
#451 of 2921 "The shortened Mustang 2"...WAS a Pinto!
Apr 06, 2004 (1:36 pm)
Same chassis, and drivetrain. (except V8 versions)
Apr 06, 2004 (2:27 pm)
Re the audio controls, I don't think ANY American car ever quite gets it right. ; )
Still can't understand those change-a-color gauges...I mean maybe in a VW Beetle, but a Mustang?!
To me, the '05 styling is mostly '68 GT with a touch of Shelby in it. Ford could have done a lot worse... : )
#453 of 2921 Wow, the Controversy!!!!
Apr 06, 2004 (4:09 pm)
Personally, I love it. But I am amazed at the emotion this car evokes, good and bad, in the fans and non fans alike. That alone is a victory for the car. And FWIW, I love the different color guages!
Apr 06, 2004 (4:31 pm)
I guess I don't see why anyone has any issues with the color changing gauges. A user can set them to regular green and leave them that way if they really don't want to play with the new technology. It isn't like the owner is forced to change them to all sorts of different colors.
I love the way the new Mustang will look. I have no idea how anyone could compare it to a Pinto like Peter did. A Mustang II sure was, but not the 2005 Mustang.
#455 of 2921 Emotions and 05 Mustang
Apr 06, 2004 (7:12 pm)
It is nice to see LS folks (Mr. Banker and Mr. Kirby) on this board! As an LS owner also who looks for great American engineering, I must say that the LS has no emotions but it is a great driving machine, however the 05 Stang is an emotional beast with some outstanding engineering work by part of the same team that worked on the LS! Also I wanted 300Hp LS with 5-speed stick and now there is one coming in the form of Mustang. Can't wait to test drive one!
Apr 06, 2004 (9:42 pm)
I keep hoping that somebody at Lincoln will notice that a lot of us are getting antsy about the end of the LS, and reverse course on that.....
Apr 06, 2004 (11:00 pm)
I fell out of my chiar when someone said "it looks like a early 80's Pinto"
Only for six months in 1980 did Ford sell the Pinto, the Escort came along in the fall. So there was no 81-83 Pinto, "early 80s'"
I don't see any Pinto in it at all!
#458 of 2921 Mustang opens the door to . . .
Apr 07, 2004 (4:30 am)
. . the possibility of a new L-M Cougar.
Why couldn’t Ford / L-M take the development that WAS already done on a higher end Mustang, and create a new Cougar. (OK, probably another name . . )
Significant development was reportedly done on a mustang based on the LS / DEW98 platform. Take that and develop something that really could shove L-M forward in de-defining the Brand.
A better suspension, in real world driving than likely will be offered with strut front and live axle rear suspensions. (I have read that the struts were selected partly because of space limitations – in addition to mfg. Cost. I’ll bet Lincoln engineers could creatively address this.) I do understand the ‘drag strip’ = live axle point of view, through I don’t necessarily agree.
Pull the 6-speed from Jag and add SST – bring Mark K. back to do the software!!!!!!!!!!!!! (And at the same time, sort of 'sneak' it onto the option list for the LS!)
Make the interior somewhat more upscale in styling and materials.
Develop specific roofline styling that will allow offering a sun- / moon-roof.
Etc, etc., etc.
[The Cougars on the 1994 or so time frame, as I recall, had IRS, for instance. And under the skin, that generation Cougar was largely a Thunderbird, as I recall. Hmmmm . . .]
Well, if L-M thinks they can make this sort of thing work by starting with the F150 – Why not????
Ford can still sell oodles of Mustangs in something close to their traditional price range, and L-M can defray the costs of some future mechanical enhancements to DEW98 / LS by spreading the development costs across a larger total sales volume.
Just deamin’, I suppose . . .
Apr 07, 2004 (7:12 am)
I've owned a couple of G.T.'s, one of them was an 85, the last year of the carburetor. Anyone remember kicking in the 4 barrel, getting shoved back in the seat and that sound, that ungodly sound.
Anyway, since the 05 is retro themed, a useless but interesting feature would be a program in the car's computer that simulates a 4bbl. Driver could push a button and change the feel from f.i to carbed.