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#41 of 2847 by john_324 Nov 25, 2003 (2:09 pm)
Ford didn't exactly "let GM get ahead of them" re the F-bodies. There's a reason why the F-bodies aren't made anymore, but the Mustang is still going strong.   Mustangs have rarely been the pinnacle of pony car performance...rather, they succeed by being good at a number of things, rather than great at just one.   I like my Mustang precisely because it is such a dinosaur...there are plenty of very good sport coupes out there, but there's only one choice if you want to experience the musclecar ethos of old.   Perhaps Ford does have the right idea after all: if total performance is your goal, pick up a Cobra and you've got it. But if you want performance combined with some nostalgia, get the GT. That's what I did... Replies to this message: mike189 (May 06, 2007 4:30 pm) baggs32 (May 06, 2007 7:01 pm) gzgtp (May 07, 2007 4:35 am) and 1 more... vertical3 (May 07, 2007 4:41 am)
#42 of 2847 by tomcat630 Nov 25, 2003 (2:47 pm)
"let the F bodies get ahead"   In the race that counts in the real world, the sales race, the F bodies were killed.   Armchair magazine racers scream alot, but don't put down $$$ to buy the machines they so ferociously defend.   Also, the GTO is meant to compete with the Cobra, which has IRS by the way. There is no "base V6 GTO" at all.   No matter how much some scream, Mustang buyers are not looking for a Celica or Eclipse clone.
#43 of 2847 IRS by snakerbill Nov 30, 2003 (12:32 pm)
OK, why not make the IRS an option?? That way cheapskates can bounce around on the solid axle, and the rest of us can decide if IRS is worth its cost. Seems like that would satisfy everyone, and I can not understand why Ford would not do just that. Seems logical to me.
#45 of 2847 by john_324 Dec 01, 2003 (9:02 am)
Yeah, I agree...esp. since it's not like Ford is going to have to fabricate one from scratch (since the Cobra will have one).   I think it unfortunately comes down to economics and manufacturing. Same reason you can't get a DOHC 4.6 as an option on your GT. : (
#46 of 2847 john 324 by snakerbill Dec 02, 2003 (8:36 am)
Now that you mention the DOHC 4.6 as an option on the GT. It is stupid that one cannot order such on the GT. I would think that Ford is in the business of making autos and why would they not make what the customer wants. If you go to a restaurant and want ice cream on your hamburger why not get it??? In my opinion there are too many not availables in the car business. If a customer is patient enough to order a car, why can he not have it the exact way he wants it. I would be willing to pay the price to get just what I want. What think??? Also do you think that Ford will ever make a Mustang without all those fake scoops and mandatory wings??? I want mine low key plain.
#47 of 2847 by john_324 Dec 03, 2003 (11:18 am)
I know what you mean. I've looked at car option sheets from the 1960s, and back then you could get just about *everything* piecemeal. So you could say get the drag suspension without having to order the super cobra jet engine.   I suspect the we can't do that anymore due to production economics. Ford probably has to keep things as streamlined as possible in assembly, otherwise the costs get prohibitively expensive. So we have to get option "packages" not picking and choosing what we want.   On the plus side, just as in the 1960s, you can get pretty much any Mustang feature over-the-counter from Ford to install yourself. Including the DOHC engine. Reading through the Ford Racing catalog is a hoot, just to see all the stuff available.   I agree with you re the scoops/wing, but we should consider that fake scoopage has been a part of Mustangs since the early days. The 1969 GT has a very prominent hood scoop that is, alas, fake. Nobody minded then...   Best you could do now would be to find a Bullitt edition: no wing, no side scoops, just the hood one. Plus Bullitts are the coolest-sounding Mustang of recent years (yes, that includes the Mach 1)...
#48 of 2847 by 3point1v6 Dec 03, 2003 (11:58 am)
i like all the scoops on the gt even if they arent functional. they help to differentiate(sp?) between the v6/gt/mach/cobra. they also make it look more sporty...in my opinion anyway
#49 of 2847 by tomcat630 Dec 03, 2003 (1:18 pm)
"I suspect the we can't do that (order peicemeal) anymore due to production economics"   Also to maintain quality. The Japanese learned that restricting options reduces complexity in production.
#50 of 2847 by john_324 Dec 03, 2003 (2:36 pm)
Yeah...though I complain about the options situation, I realize it's the best solution over the long run.   For most people, the packaged groupings are just fine, and as pointed out, I'd definitely hate to have Mustang quality drop *further*... ; )   And it seems to me that with the advent of leasing, and the general affulence of the avg. new car buyer, everybody simply gets the "loaded" package anyway. I think the avg. GT out there is a premium edition with leather, the Mach stereo, etc. I bought a "regular" GT because those things mean nothing to me...but I'm in the minority I know.

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