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#31 of 2847 by 3point1v6 Nov 09, 2003 (7:39 pm)
from what i have read on various websites it is something that can be continually changed...like there will be a dial that you will turn that will gradually change the color.
#32 of 2847 Answers to question about the 05 mustang by shelby_kid Nov 19, 2003 (5:28 pm)
The mustang is scheduled to go on sale in the summer of 04....the price range will be about the same or justa little higher then any other new release for a mustang(i.e. a new 04 coupe was about $18k+ in 2003)..the price will range from $18k+ to $39k+ (MSRP)...The regular coupe however is not the one i am looking forward to. I cant wait for the Shelby and SVT editions. Those are what have me looking forward to the 04 release. If you are wondering if my information is accurate, It is....i have been reasearching this car for months now.My love of the 67 shelby mustang(Eleanor) is what lead me to do all this research. Since i wont be able to maintain one ever if i could afford to buy it i had to find an alternative...and this 05 mustang will do just that for me. If there are anymore question feel free to ask if i dont know off hand i'll get the info for you.
#33 of 2847 by tomcat630 Nov 21, 2003 (9:32 am)
The 05 is on "DEW-Lite", a less expensive version of the DEW98 used for the Lincoln LS/Jag S.   The biased auto press will hate the live axle, but then what Asian car sold here has a V8 and RWD besides the luxo boats??
#34 of 2847 Live Axle by z9z9z9z9 Nov 24, 2003 (8:28 am)
Pretty much anyone (with the exception of drag racers) who understands suspension design will hate the live axle, especially in the northern parts of the US where roads are so bad.   Ford's explanation that IRS costs too much is really lame. Even KIA and Hyundai use IRS. To be fair, RWD IRS costs a bit more, but even stamped steel semi-trailing arms would be better than a live axle.
#35 of 2847 Live axle by corsicachevy Nov 24, 2003 (8:53 am)
The only good reasons I can see for keeping the live axle set up are for durability, reliability, simplicity, cost and weight concerns. Unfortunately, that is quite a list.   An independent rear suspension would be a welcome addition, but given the current bean counter mentality a live axle seems all to predictable.
#36 of 2847 by john_324 Nov 24, 2003 (1:18 pm)
True, but live axles make tail-out fun sooo easy! And what's more ponycar than that? : )
#37 of 2847 by tomcat630 Nov 24, 2003 (1:22 pm)
"Even Kia and Hyundai use"... a lame-axx IRS. No way would they hold up to V8 torque.   If you don't like live axle, get a Kia or Hyundai then and watch everyone ignore the car.
#38 of 2847 live axle by z9z9z9z9 Nov 24, 2003 (2:06 pm)
weight concerns: The real issue here is UNSPRUNG weight, which is one of the reasons a live axle handles so badly on broken pavement. Not only are the wheels moving, but the entire axle and differential is along for the ride too.   V8 torque: The IRS on the Dodge Viper seems to be able to deal with 525 ft/lb torque, so I don't see reason why Ford can't deal with the 325 ft/lb or so that the V8 Mustang will produce.   Final thought: are there _any_ other vehicles currently being manufactured with a live rear axle other than taxi cabs and pickup trucks? Very few. If a live axle is inadequate for midsize family sedans, what business does it have on the back of a "performance" car?
#39 of 2847 z9 by corsicachevy Nov 25, 2003 (6:53 am)
Regarding weight concerns - it appears that the new Mustang, even with a live axle is going to weigh around 3700 pounds. I fear that the Cobra version (with IRS and a supercharger) will start to brush up against the two ton figure.   I understand the importance of keeping unsprung weight down. However, some pony car fans may appreciate measures to keep overall weight under control. Keep in mind that I find an IRS superior to a live axle in most instances, including this one.   For those of you concerned about durability, it doesn't seem to be an issue for the current IRS equipped 390hp Cobra.
#40 of 2847 IRS by snakerbill Nov 25, 2003 (12:56 pm)
What is really annoying is that the Pontiac GTO will have IRS, and it has a lot more power than what Ford is planning for the GT. However that car weighs over 3800 pounds, and costs about 35000. Ford should never let GM get ahead of them again. (Like they did with the last F bodies) Why in the world would Ford build the all new Mustang with a solid rear axle? Forget about all the excuses like weight, cost etc etc, and build the car in the modern idiom. Ford, Are you there? Are you listening?

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