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#2731 of 2847 X-Plan on Fords IS NOT OVER INVOICE by mschmal Jan 22, 2008 (1:38 pm)
its .4% under invoice which is usually about $50 to $60 or so.   Lincoln X-plan is above invoice but Ford and Mercury X-plan is below.   Mark. Replies to this message: akirby (Jan 22, 2008 3:19 pm)
#2732 of 2847 Re: X-Plan on Fords IS NOT OVER INVOICE [mschmal] by akirby Jan 22, 2008 (3:19 pm)
Replying to: mschmal (Jan 22, 2008 1:38 pm) Mark - I said it EQUATES to about $500 over invoice because Ford gives the dealer a spiff check around $500. I never said the actual X plan price was $500 over invoice.
#2733 of 2847 Yes, there is a commission by mschmal Jan 22, 2008 (4:04 pm)
However, you should not imply that the commission to the dealer possibly available as additional discount as the X-plan rules require the dealership charge no more or less than X-plan.   Mark. Replies to this message: akirby (Jan 22, 2008 5:20 pm)
#2734 of 2847 Re: Yes, there is a commission [mschmal] by akirby Jan 22, 2008 (5:20 pm)
Replying to: mschmal (Jan 22, 2008 4:04 pm) You've totally misunderstood the issue which was that the Bullitt mustang was no longer eligible for X plan. MY point was that if a dealer was willing to sell you a Bullitt on X plan before then they should be willing to sell it to you now for $500 over invoice. The profit for the dealer would be ROUGHLY the same. As opposed to going from X plan to MSRP. Get it?
#2735 of 2847 OK OK by mschmal Jan 25, 2008 (10:38 am)
I guess i missed the part about dealers selling Bullitts for X-plan as I never would imagine doing that myself.   Mark.
#2736 of 2847 Clogged water drain by pathrider Jan 25, 2008 (1:54 pm)
I am wondering if anyone else has this problem. Yesterday after starting my 2006 Ford Mustang convertible and turning on the heating system to defog the front windshield, I heard a swishing sound (like sand getting blasted at plastic). It seemed to happen as I turned my steering wheel in either direction or the car bumped around. I soon discovered water on the floorboard of the front passenger side of the car and could feel water dripping from underneath the far right side of the instrument panel. After my Ford dealer looked at it, they told me that the water drain for the windshield cavity was full of pine needles and it would cost $450.00 to clean it out. I said what? I have never heard of such a thing. I have had a few cars where I live in the mountains of California but never encountered this problem. Ford told me this was not a warranty repair and I would have to pay. The actual bill came to $345.29 - $29.04 for a filter and $316.25 for labor. Man, this sure seems like a design flaw because it seems to me cars should be able to handle any type of tree leaves and neadles without cloggin up. Has this happened to anyone else on a Mustang. My dealer tells me that this has happened to one other 2006 or newer Mustang that they have worked on. Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jan 27, 2008 5:50 am) mash2 (Aug 04, 2008 6:22 pm) cccompson (Jan 27, 2008 9:58 am)
#2737 of 2847 Re: Mustang Bullitt 2008 [luna1017] by nvbanker Jan 27, 2008 (5:41 am)
Replying to: luna1017 (Jan 20, 2008 6:29 pm) Agree with akirby - DON'T pay that "market adjustment". Shop around - there will be dealers all over the country ready to sell one at MSRP. Sometimes dealers in the small towns live from internet sales.....start shopping online.
#2738 of 2847 Re: Clogged water drain [pathrider] by nvbanker Jan 27, 2008 (5:50 am)
Replying to: pathrider (Jan 25, 2008 1:54 pm) Well....yes and no. I agree with you, that Ford should have paid. Design flaw though - probably not. An exceptional load for a drain to handle probably. As they said, only one other case. If 50% of them did this, then yes, design flaw. Like weep holes in doors and mufflers, they normally drain. Keeping leaves clear of windshield grates is usually a user maintenance item, like washing. But once anyway, I think Ford should have stepped up.   See, this is where most Manufacturers blow it. The car is still under warranty - and by not paying for this repair - they have pissed you off, probably irreparably. $400 to you now, with a disclaimer that they won't clean it free again, and you should keep the pine needles out of it, to some degree, or you pay next time, would have gone a long way toward keeping your satisfaction attitude on the positive side, and may have sold you another Ford, and kept you from badmouthing Ford to 1200 of your closest friends...... Replies to this message: mash2 (Aug 04, 2008 6:22 pm)
#2739 of 2847 Re: Clogged water drain [pathrider] by cccompson Jan 27, 2008 (9:58 am)
Replying to: pathrider (Jan 25, 2008 1:54 pm) You got ripped. Go back and scream. There's a TSB on the water leak issue - #07-14-6. The problem is almost always on the passenger side. This applies to 2005 through 2008 Mustangs and the online publication date of the TSB was 7/3/07.   The thing that is sad is that Ford gives four four possible causes in the TSB:   1) Loose grommets and/or sealer skips around the cowl area;   2) loose A-pillar window weather stripping retainer;   3) misaligned body harness grommet through the firewall; and/or   4) misaligned body harness grommet from the front passenger door.   Funny thing, mine nevers see rain or a car wash so I'll never know if it has this problem!
#2740 of 2847 My '08 Stang destroyed at dealership! by stang81 Jan 27, 2008 (7:01 pm)
I've been having a real string of bad luck lately, first my '05 Chyrysler 300' motor seizes up, and now my Stang gets smashed up at the dealership. I went in for my first service with only 2200kms I've had my Mustang for 4 months. While the car was parked at the drive in doors waiting for someone to pull it in me and a few other guys were admiring the car when the garage door opens and one of their own service techs with an F-150 backs rite over the hood of my Stang. We all watched in shock as this happened........so now me the lucky guy that I am get to drive around in a Focus while the dealership i bought my brand new GT from fixes it after they crash into it. How nice eh!! Replies to this message: nvbanker (Jan 28, 2008 2:48 pm) pony_pirate (May 15, 2008 2:42 pm) nvbanker (May 18, 2008 8:43 am) pony_pirate (May 18, 2008 11:24 am)

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