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Re: Edmunds is not correct. [waterdr] by ckone0814
Jan 01, 2008 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: waterdr (Dec 31, 2007 11:30 am)

I'd like for the dealer and the salesman to get paid. In this particular case I wanted to buy from my "hometown" dealer. I had already bought a Focus from this dealer and the salesman and they were good people, never any nonsense.
 
I offered $X out the door, they could only do $X + $500 and as I said, gave me the dealer's name who had the car in stock. I left. They called me a few days later and said they could do it now but "the car you wanted was no longer available"...that's because I had bought it from the other dealer for $1200 under my original offer! My local dealer lost me for $500.
 
Don't tell me dealers are not making money and salesman are not getting paid. They are not in business to lose money; as the other poster said, some deals they steal, some they don't. I have had dealerships tell me "no" many times but so far I've always found someone who will say "yes".
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Interesting conversation, by nvbanker
Jan 01, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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and I'd like to weigh in, but if I do here in the Mustang forum, I'll get stomped on.
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Re: Edmunds is not correct. [ckone0814] by cccompson
Jan 01, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: ckone0814 (Jan 01, 2008 5:25 am)

I'll never understand their games. In the summer of '06 I was ready to pull the trigger on a GT 'vert. Found one I liked at an out of town dealer. Told 'em what numbers they needed to beat (on new and trade) to make the sale but they wouldn't come close. Went back to my hometown dealer (where I already had solid numbers) and they traded with that same out of town store two days later to get that particular car for me.
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Automatic Volume Control by parents2k8
Jan 09, 2008 (3:24 pm)
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radio works when 2005 ignition is turned on and even when motor is on but as soon as you start the car volume turns off UNLESS you ave the clutch pushed in. Let the clutch out and the volume again goes away....Any thoughts?
And of course, even though I under the 3year warranty I am over the mileage so that means money out of my pocket...Help!
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Re: Edmunds is not correct. [ckone0814] by waterdr
Jan 10, 2008 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: ckone0814 (Jan 01, 2008 5:25 am)

Well you know the saying:
 
"How can you tell when a salesmen is lying?
 
"When their lips move." - lol
 
Being in sales does not have to be dishonest, it should be about finding a mutually, beneficial situation for the buyer and seller. A good salemen will put themselves in the shoes of the cunsumer and they have to have that special sixth sense that says "I know what you are telling me, but it is really not what you mean".
 
Saturn tried to bring this back when they hit the market, but they have just really gone the direction of everything else.
 
As I asked before, what value does the dealer bring? If they bring value then they deserve to get paid. If not, then let's just bypass them and move on.
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re: dealers by alloypony07
Jan 16, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Well...Being a Ford Salesperson for 2 years, I sold about 5 Mustangs per month during 06-07. Almost all of them came in with an invoice or msrp printed out from some site, whether here or kbb or whomever. We sold every customer the same, $500 over invoice, my invoice, the actual. Maybe get a better deal somewhere else? Im sure. But they sat down, pick the options, and have an immediate price, No haggle, No negotiation. They spent probably $500-100 more by buying from me, but it was the easiest car buying experience of their lives. Keep in mind I love mustangs, own one myself, and people appreciate that. It will never be the price of the car that sells it, unless your a dealer struggling, but it will be how the salesperson handles the customer and his needs. I sold a Saleen Parnelli Jones at $71k, which was $15k over STICKER. He was the most appreciative and happy customer I have ever had. Money isnt everything.
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dealer invoice by alloypony07
Jan 16, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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and for everyones knowledge, the prices on edmunds are very far off from actual, many dealers have special deals through ford for being Presidents award winning dealers, or by pushing hundreds of new cars per month, that many dealers get cars as much as $1500 cheaper than another dealer. And for everyones information, the mark up between invoice and msrp on fords is only about 5% if that, most of the time its about $3k difference. Dealers/salespersons make squat on new cars, unless special ordered or extremely rare. For everyones info, a salesperson will give you a better price than a manager on average, it wont be until you "hardball" and pretend to walk than the manager will drop his pants. You are better off pounding on the salesperson. Im just glad I got out of new cars sales.
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Mustang Bullitt 2008 by luna1017
Jan 20, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Finally got to see one of these today. Was really considering trading in my 2005 GT for it. However what stopped me in my tracks was the dealer's extra paper he had by posted by the window sticker...he was asking $20K......over MSRP.
 
The salesperson told me a few people had offered MSRP for the car and they refused to sell it. The additional $20K over invoice was explained as a "MARKET ADJUSTMENT"
 
After the initial shock and awe wore off.....I decided to wait until more of these get delivered....and hopefully not all dealers will be adjusting their prices in this manner.
 
Has anyone else seen one? Is the price marked up just as high? Hopefully as more come into the area.....the dealers will be more competitive.
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Re: Mustang Bullitt 2008 [luna1017] by akirby
Jan 21, 2008 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: luna1017 (Jan 20, 2008 6:29 pm)

I've heard of dealers selling them on X plan before they were deemed ineligible, which equates to about $500 over invoice for the dealer. I'm sure you can find one for MSRP or below.
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X-Plan on Fords IS NOT OVER INVOICE by mschmal
Jan 22, 2008 (1:38 pm)
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its .4% under invoice which is usually about $50 to $60 or so.
 
Lincoln X-plan is above invoice but Ford and Mercury X-plan is below.
 
Mark.

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