Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)

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#2657 of 2921 Shelby GT. by mschmal

Oct 04, 2007 (4:35 pm)

First, if you own a regular Mustang GT. Then you can upgrade your mechanicals to the Shelby GT with Ford Racing parts. To upgrade a stock GT to GT500 is not really realistic.
 
Second. vs the GT500, the Shelby GT actually went to Los Vegas and was worked on by Shelby techs. The GT500 as built 100% on the regular Mustang line in Flat Rock.
 
Third, My dealer sells the Shelby GTs for full list. MSRP on the car and cost on the Shelby package which is around $38,000. The upgrades are worth it IMHO if you don't pay much over that.
 
This could be the last program Carol Shelby is personally involved in. He is no spring chicken and that may have some effect on the Collectability of these limited cars.
 
Collectability is also affect by the fact that the 2008 Shelby GTs are pretty much completely different appearence wise.
 
Mark.

#2658 of 2921 Re: Shelby GT. [mschmal] by jae5

Oct 12, 2007 (10:49 am)

Replying to: mschmal (Oct 04, 2007 4:35 pm)
Thanks (and novell as well). Am knowledgeable about all the points you made mschmal, but thanks for the rundown.
 
As with novell, I've seen more GT500s than GTs; I figure I might see one KR or Super Snake someday. I just see some for sale in the Auto Week mags and the dealers are asking major cash for them and the GT500s. It's just hard to take when on the next page there are a couple of C6 Corvettes for the same cash or less than the GT, or a 427 S/C Cobra replica or used Viper for the same cash.
 
That was kind of my point I guess. The two main packages that make it a "Shelby" can be bought from the Ford Motorsports Catalog for a lot less than buying the package. The other items are just insignias, badges and the like. {And I would have liked to have seen the T-bird sequential taillights like the 67-70 and the concept car for the 2005 on the current Shelbys). For me the collectability is second, I still believe cars should be driven first, looked at / drooled over second. If I was just into the collectability, put it in a garage and wipe it down every night, I'd buy a plastic model kit for $10 ~ $15 bucks (or a metal one for a little more coin) and call it the day. Hell of a lot cheaper and can modify it anyway I wanted without guilt. And if I wanted another one to "preserve the authenticity" just go to the hobby store and buy another.
 
And your right, Shelby may not be around too much longer; between the younger wife and the multiple ops... But one of the greats nonetheless.
 
Thanks guys.

#2659 of 2921 Re: Shelby GT. [jae5] by cccompson

Oct 12, 2007 (6:17 pm)

Replying to: jae5 (Oct 12, 2007 10:49 am)
Sequential tailights are an easy aftermarket mod for the S197. Guy in my office just did it himself although the parts were a bit pricey ($139 or so, IIRC).

#2660 of 2921 Re: Shelby GT. [jae5] by nvbanker

Oct 14, 2007 (9:03 am)

Replying to: jae5 (Oct 12, 2007 10:49 am)
And your right, Shelby may not be around too much longer; between the younger wife and the multiple ops... But one of the greats nonetheless.
 
I live in Vegas where Shelby has his factory - sometimes, if you're lucky, when you drive by, you can see him outside the garage leaning on a Mustang, talking with someone. He doesn't look great - but he's still working every day. And there are a Thousand Mustangs parked at the Speedway there, waiting for conversion to Shelbys, or waiting for shipment after conversion. Looks like a going operation to me.... He is old, nonetheless, and it's not looking as if he'll be the first one to beat mortality.....

#2661 of 2921 Re: Shelby GT. [jae5] by vistabluestang

Oct 15, 2007 (8:00 am)

Replying to: jae5 (Oct 12, 2007 10:49 am)
I agree with you. I was debating buying the 500GT or a regular GT. I ended up with the regular GT. I want to be able to work on my car...modify it, add to it, make it my own. I consider this 1/2 of the fun. I felt if I touched the Shelby I would lose money. I like shining my car, but I like getting my hands dirty a lot better.

#2662 of 2921 Re: Who knows what 09 holds. [akirby] by wayne21

Oct 15, 2007 (10:48 pm)

Replying to: akirby (Aug 04, 2007 2:04 pm)
My wife and I wanted to buy a new Taurus. We went to the dealer with the intent of returning home with a Taurus. We drove it and the 6 cyl fusion. The 3.5 liter in the taurus with 260 HP was terribly underpowered. I would not own that car. The 3.0 liter fusion ran a lot better, but was loud and had a cheap interior. With that aside, I hope for does not use the 3.5l 260 HP in next years mustangs unless they make some dramatic changes.

#2663 of 2921 Re: Who knows what 09 holds. [wayne21] by tayl0rd

Oct 16, 2007 (5:58 am)

Replying to: wayne21 (Oct 15, 2007 10:48 pm)
The new Taurus is enormous. That's a lot of weight to carry around. The V6 Mustang might weigh a little over 3200 pounds. You can't compare what the engine did in the Taurus with what it may be able to do in the Mustang. It should be able to make it at least as fast as the last generation GT, if not faster.

#2664 of 2921 Re: Who knows what 09 holds. [tayl0rd] by akirby

Oct 16, 2007 (7:05 am)

Replying to: tayl0rd (Oct 16, 2007 5:58 am)
Don't forget the current 4.0L V6 - which is really a truck engine - only makes 210 hp and 240 lb ft of torque. The 3.5L will make 265 hp and 250 lb ft of torque while getting better fuel economy.

#2665 of 2921 Re: Shelby GT. [cccompson] by jae5

Oct 30, 2007 (10:50 am)

Replying to: cccompson (Oct 12, 2007 6:17 pm)
I've seen one as well, with the sequentials but the lens was stock. I guess I wasn't clear enough, my bad, but I would have liked the same lens treatment the the 67 - 70 had, where the lens was wider than the stock tri-bar. Again, just like the sequential taillights from the T-bird.
 
Is this what your office-mate has, new lenses and the like, or is the kit just a sequential relay kit for the bulbs, stock lenses?

#2666 of 2921 Re: Shelby GT. [jae5] by cccompson

Oct 31, 2007 (3:27 pm)

Replying to: jae5 (Oct 30, 2007 10:50 am)
I believe that it is just the bulbs. Will find out for sure tomorrow when I see it.
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