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Re: Elegance [pony_pirate] by lmm
Sep 05, 2006 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: pony_pirate (Sep 05, 2006 2:12 pm)

the OP didnt ask about MUSCLE. You threw that in. He wanted to know if what he read about a V6 was true regarding what was wrong with the engine and handling.
 
The OP is well aware of the horsepower difference.
 
No reason to trash talk a v6 unless you feel the need. To 99.9% of the population they cant tell the difference by looking at it so monetarily you paid too much for the same look and only 80hp more.
 
Try reading the post and offering the info he requested.
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Re: Elegance [lmm] by pony_pirate
Sep 05, 2006 (10:42 pm)
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Replying to: lmm (Sep 05, 2006 6:54 pm)

To 99.9% of the population they cant tell the difference by looking at it so monetarily you paid too much for the same look and only 80hp more.
 
Oh, I see, you drive a Mustang because of how other people see it. Excuse me, but I don't.
 
Funny, the GT, not the V6, is used in all the Mustang TV ads.

I would bet the Vette Z06 looks just like the C06 to "99.9% of the population," which, according to your criteria, eliminates any real difference between the two. Accordingly, anyone spending the extra $30k+ for a Z ("only" 100 HP more) is wasting their money. Interesting.
 
Somehow missing from this conversation is performance.
 
Just to restore some perspective, the big hoopla about the redesigned Mustang is its resurrection of the American muscle car. Er, the V6 is not a muscle car.
 
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Re: Elegance [pony_pirate] by riposte
Sep 06, 2006 (3:52 am)
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Replying to: pony_pirate (Sep 05, 2006 10:42 pm)

It's about the "resurrection" of an American icon, not specifically the "muscle car".
 
"Back in the day", I'll bet more I6 Mustangs were sold than V8's.
 
It's also interesting to note the first new car I ever bought was an '85 Mustang GT. It was rated at 220 HP. The current V6 is rated at 210 HP, and this is a more conservative rating than the '85, so it's not a stretch to say that they are the same horsepower.
 
Does the '85 GT qualify as a "muscle car"?
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Re: Elegance [lmm] by tayl0rd
Sep 06, 2006 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: lmm (Sep 05, 2006 1:47 pm)

The V6 does not handle or perform like the GT. For one, the V6 doesn't have a rear sway bar and I believe the one it has in the front is smaller than the one on the GT. Also the GT has a firmer suspension and bigger, better brakes (in the rear). And the HP difference is 90, not 80. But if you want to go on non-"conservative" ratings, the difference is 100+ HP because it's widely reported that the GT is putting out between 320 and 325 HP stock.
 
The GT is a totally different pony from the V6 as the GT500 is a totally different pony from the GT. Although I've heard nothing but good things about the V6 and it's performance, it's no GT.
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Re: Elegance [tayl0rd] by akirby
Sep 06, 2006 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 06, 2006 5:57 am)

Slight correction - a V6 without the Pony Package won't handle as good as the GT. The Pony Package adds most of the GT handling package to the V6.
 
There's no need to debate which one is better - they're both great in their own ways and both have their pros and cons.
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My concerns Gentlemen: by texastang
Sep 06, 2006 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 06, 2006 6:12 am)

My concerns were: if I purchased the convertible with the V8, would it be a waste of money, since the convertible would weight more due to added bracing. Also the softer springs would affect cornering and performance. Would I be better off saving money getting the V6 in a convertible since I could not get the performance I could get in a coupe with the V8.
 
I had the tubular Cherry Bombs on my 1967 289 GT 2+2, and I liked how they sounded. I wanted to know if anyone had put these on their new Mustangs and how they liked the sound.
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Re: My concerns Gentlemen: [texastang] by tayl0rd
Sep 06, 2006 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: texastang (Sep 06, 2006 6:51 am)

There's not a huge performance difference between the GT coupe and GT convertible. There's minimal additional bracing for the convertible. Remember, the S197 was designed for convertible duty from the drawing board.
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Re: My concerns Gentlemen: [texastang] by akirby
Sep 06, 2006 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: texastang (Sep 06, 2006 6:51 am)

Definitely NOT a waste of money if you appreciate power and handling. The extra weight and softer springs won't make a huge difference.
 
OTOH a V6 vert w/pony package would handle great and be significantly cheaper if you can give up the acceleration and sound of the V8.
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Re: Elegance [pony_pirate] by lmm
Sep 06, 2006 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: pony_pirate (Sep 05, 2006 10:42 pm)

Sorry Pirate, but the GT is not a muscle car. It requires a lot more hp to be classified a muscle car. It is a sports car. And again the OP wasnt asking about performance but reliability and handling. And it seems he has the info he was seeking. I enjoyed the debate.
 
"Just to restore some perspective, the big hoopla about the redesigned Mustang is its resurrection of the American muscle car. Er, the V6 is not a muscle car"
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Re: Elegance [lmm] by gzgtp
Sep 06, 2006 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: lmm (Sep 06, 2006 8:08 am)

The GT is not a Muscle Car??? Better alert Muscle car magazine and many others.
 
Does this mean that the Vette is a Muscle Car (more HP than the GT) and not a sports car??

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