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#1177 of 2924 Re: Mustang sales figures [martin3]
Jun 02, 2005 (5:59 pm)
Didn't they already mark 2 production increases since intro? Ford's web site cites increases in production of 80,000 cars over 2004 numbers. I wonder how much the Mustang's popularity has exceeded Ford exec's expectations?
Adding production is a lot more complicated than just adding another shift at the factory. I would rather they keep quality up rather than slap a few more "numbers" together.
That being said, Ford, can you build mine now?? Sonic Blue please!
Jun 03, 2005 (4:16 am)
The 6 speed transmission co-developed with GM is a FWD automatic, not a RWD manual.
I know it's not an MTX (and I didn't say that, did I?) but I thought it was going to be flexible enough to be used in FWD, AWD, and RWD applications. With slight modifications of course. Is that impossible?
This article hints at future versions near the bottom but I guess they have not been developed yet.
#1179 of 2924 Re: Mustang sales figures [sonicblucrisis]
Jun 03, 2005 (4:48 am)
Ford originally planned to make 150,000 '05 Mustangs.....a 10,000 unit increase over the '04 Mustang figures. With the demand so high, Ford cranked up the Flat Rock plant to produce somewhere around the 190,000 figure for '05 Mustangs (a whopping 50,000 unit increase over the '04s and a 40,000 unit increase over Ford's already aggressive production figure).
What's amazing is that the Mustang, by itself, has captured over 2.4% of the total car market in the U.S.
The Mustang shares the production plant with the Mazda 6. You're right about one thing, it's not an easy (nor cheap) endeavor to outfit another plant to make Mustangs. First, you have to coordinate all the suppliers (who are already strained) to make more parts for the Mustang. Then, you have to finc a suitable facility to build it, buy all the tools & dies to stamp out the parts, hire another workforce to build them, train the work force, make more engines, etc.....etc.....etc. It's not something you can do cheaply, nor quickly.
I agree that the Mustang has top notch build quality and I'd want to keep it that way more than I'd want to "slap them together" to increase production (even if you could increase production, which you can't).
Jun 03, 2005 (6:52 am)
The question is whether the higher production volumes can be sustained more than a few months. If so then it makes sense to increase production. But I think the belief is this is a temporary spike that will settle down after a few months. What they should do is increase the ratio of GTs if possible since that's where the shortage is right now.
What we don't need is for production to be increased too much so that they have to start offering incentives to move them.
#1181 of 2924 Re: Slush 6 [baggs32]
Jun 03, 2005 (6:57 am)
Not sure where the MTX came from - sorry. I don't think you can just convert a FWD tranny to RWD - I think they're totally different animals. Ford already has a RWD 6 speed automatic tranny anyway - it's the ZF unit that's used by Jaguar and in the new Navigator. Only problem there is cost. The FWD ATX probably doesn't handle a lot of torque and is therefore much cheaper.
#1182 of 2924 Re: volume [akirby]
Jun 03, 2005 (6:57 am)
While my dealer tells me that he's sold out of '06 Mustang GT allotment until well into next year, I don't know if that's representative of everywhere. I suspect that it is. If that continues (which I doubt it will), then I'd say Ford may keep production high through at least the middle of '06. I doubt they can sustain that production rate into the '07 MY, however.
Probably by '07, Ford will bring out, not only the Shelby, but hopefully something in the way of a Boss, Mach or Bullett model to sustain the success that they've already enjoyed.
#1183 of 2924 Slush 6 by baggs32
Jun 04, 2005 (10:42 am)
The RWD version in the Navigator, and in the 2006 Explorer/Mountaineer, is manufactured by Ford in Livonia under license from ZF.
Surprisingly, it has significantly fewer parts, weighs significantly less, is significantly smaller, and shifts much better.
It would be nice if they had the capacity to install it in all RWD vehicles. I suspect that the lower MPG vehicles are the priority.
#1184 of 2924 Re: Slush 6 by baggs32 [lateralg]
Jun 04, 2005 (11:56 am)
I think cost is the limiting factor on the ZF 6 speed although the price should come down as volume increases.
#1185 of 2924 Re: Slush 6 by baggs32 [lateralg] by akirby
Jun 04, 2005 (2:44 pm)
I'm not sure the ratio of fixed vs. variable costs. I suspect that the license fee is a substantial CPU.
#1186 of 2924 Re: Mustang sales figures [sonicblucrisis]
Jun 04, 2005 (8:48 pm)
Hey, FWIW, the Sonic Blue looks just awesome, IMO........ It's worth the wait.