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#1166 of 2921 V6 Question by tacoboy

Jun 01, 2005 (8:15 pm)

I know everybody loves talking V8, but can anyone tell me future of the V6 Mustang? I think Ford is working on a 3.5L engine due to come out in 2007. I'm wondering if that engine will replace the 4.0L for the 2007 model year. If it is I will hold off on my Mustang purchase, as I think the new 3.5L is expected to have around 250hp.
 
On another note, I'm really excited to see what the "Pony Package" does to the looks of the '06 Mustang V6!

#1167 of 2921 Re: V6 Question [tacoboy] by nvbanker

Jun 01, 2005 (9:52 pm)

Replying to: tacoboy (Jun 01, 2005 8:15 pm)
Believe you are correct about the 3.5L replacing the 4.0L. Only concern I would have is there's gonna be a huge demand for this new engine, as every darn car Ford makes is gonna get that new V-6 when it's available. There's going to be a huge demand for it, so it'll have to be phased in. Who knows when the Mustang will get it.

#1168 of 2921 Re: V6 Question [nvbanker] by akirby

Jun 02, 2005 (5:52 am)

Replying to: nvbanker (Jun 01, 2005 9:52 pm)
That is the plan re: the 3.5L replacing the 4.0L, however that could change or it could be delayed based on availability.
 
As for waiting - even though it should have more peak hp the new 3.5L probably won't have as much low end torque, so don't expect any significant performance difference. The biggest difference will probably be in fuel mileage and refinement.
 
Not to mention the potential for problems with a brand new engine. The 4.0L is pretty much bulletproof. I wouldn't wait.

#1169 of 2921 Re: V6 Question [nvbanker] by baggs32

Jun 02, 2005 (6:06 am)

Replying to: nvbanker (Jun 01, 2005 9:52 pm)
From I've gathered on the Fusion thread from a Ford employee (white collar office type) the 07 Lincoln Aviator will be the first to get the Duratec35 then others in need will follow. Read Five Hundred and Fusion. Supposedly the Mustang is going to get it eventually but I wouldn't expect to see it in that application until MY08 or beyond. Based on info I've gathered so far anyway.
 
You have to figure that since the Duratec35 is putting out somewhere around 240-250 HP with no bells and whistles they're going to have to bump up the HP from the V8 to differentiate the two. Doing that 2 years after the new model introduction is going to tick a lot of '05 and '06 owners off.

#1170 of 2921 Re: V6 Question [baggs32] by akirby

Jun 02, 2005 (6:38 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Jun 02, 2005 6:06 am)
The V8 puts out about 320 hp (even though they only claim 300) so I don't think that's a problem.

#1171 of 2921 Re: V6 Question [akirby] by baggs32

Jun 02, 2005 (10:19 am)

Replying to: akirby (Jun 02, 2005 6:38 am)
I know it's underrated at 300 but that's still what most shoppers see. You, I, and other enthusiasts know the real story. However, those who don't will most likely be upset if they paid X amount over sticker for their '05 or '06 GT with 300 HP only to have some "secretary" pay only $20k for 50 fewer horses a year or two later.
 
I personally don't think we'll see the Duratec35 in the Mustang until a mid-cycle refresh. Given Ford's new refresh strategy that will probably be somewhere around 2008-2010.
 
Just my two cents.

#1172 of 2921 baggs32 by rorr

Jun 02, 2005 (10:36 am)

"I personally don't think we'll see the Duratec35 in the Mustang until a mid-cycle refresh. Given Ford's new refresh strategy that will probably be somewhere around 2008-2010."
 
I agree, but for a different reason. Ford has no need to offer any real improvements of this nature to a car which is already selling, and will continue to sell, as well as the Mustang. However, other cars in their lineup DO need real improvements to increase sales (Ford 500).
 
Put the new Duratec35 where sales need a boost. That won't be the Mustang for a few years.

#1173 of 2921 Re: baggs32 [rorr] by akirby

Jun 02, 2005 (10:43 am)

Replying to: rorr (Jun 02, 2005 10:36 am)
The only reason I could see them making the switch early is for fuel mileage and CAFE compliance. Otherwise I think it will be a few years, as stated.

#1174 of 2921 Re: baggs32 [rorr] by baggs32

Jun 02, 2005 (12:48 pm)

Replying to: rorr (Jun 02, 2005 10:36 am)
I agree, but for a different reason. Ford has no need to offer any real improvements of this nature to a car which is already selling, and will continue to sell, as well as the Mustang. However, other cars in their lineup DO need real improvements to increase sales (Ford 500).
 
That's actually exactly what I was getting at in a more round about way. As I stated before other vehicles which are more in need will be getting it first (I also forgot to include the Freestyle, Montego, Zephyr, and Milan in that post). The Mustang certainly does not need it right now or in the foreseeable future. The 5-speed ATX definitely helps at the pump and the possibility of a 6-speed ATX (partnered with GM) lessens the need for the 3.5 even more.
 
You can probably factor in the Explorer engine as well. I think it will still base as the 4.0L so something else will have to keep that factory going until it changes. Just a thought.

#1175 of 2921 Re: baggs32 [baggs32] by akirby

Jun 02, 2005 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: baggs32 (Jun 02, 2005 12:48 pm)
The 6 speed transmission co-developed with GM is a FWD automatic, not a RWD manual.
 
Not applicable to the Mustang platform.

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