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#2377 of 2501 Re: Tire Balance [chuck1] by chloe_6 Sep 14, 2008 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: chuck1 (Sep 13, 2008 9:43 pm) I can't say for sure a road force balance was done but I do know that Discount Tire and the dealership showed up as places who have the GSP9700. Now if they actually use it is another thing. Same for the "lug-centric" adapter. But both are things I will ask specifically about next time.   The tires currently on the vehicle are Bridgestone Dueler H/T 840s. I've read quite a few reviews on them that they are poor tires - especially in wet conditions. So I'm thinking about new tires. I had Michelin LTXs on a Pathfinder before the 4Runner and they were great. But they were 16" and I have 17" now. What's your opinion on Michelins? Replies to this message: chuck1 (Sep 14, 2008 2:04 pm)
#2378 of 2501 Re: Tire Balance [chloe_6] by chuck1 Sep 14, 2008 (2:04 pm)
Replying to: chloe_6 (Sep 14, 2008 12:26 pm) I have the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner-great tire and expensive. The Bridgestones while having poor performance reviews, generally don't have balance issues. Check the weight of the LTX's vs. CrossTerrains. Remember, heavier tire equals poorer gas mileage.   It doesn't matter if they have the right machine if they do not use the lug centric adapter. If they balance the tires using the center hole in the wheel-it does not balance correctly. Also at this point you must demand a road force on the tires.
#2379 of 2501 Tire Rotation/Brakes by 2006toy Sep 14, 2008 (2:59 pm)
I own a 2006 V8 Limited with 56K of primarily highway miles, dealer maintained with no problems at all and have a couple of questions;   1) How long do the Michelin Cross Terrains typically last? I might have another 6k left. 2) How long do the original brakes last? I have not had any brake work done 3) When rotating the tires, one dealership rotates all 5 (spare included) front to back and across as well as "Force Balance" the tires. The other dealership closer to home rotates the 2 front tires with the 2 back tires, does not include the spare or cross the tires left to right. Which method is correct? Replies to this message: boats3 (Sep 17, 2008 8:34 am) canddmeyer (Sep 19, 2008 2:40 am) chuck1 (Sep 19, 2008 7:10 am) ponytrekker (Sep 21, 2008 2:37 am) duke15 (Oct 18, 2008 7:57 pm) duke15 (Dec 12, 2008 8:17 am)
#2380 of 2501 Re Tires and brakes,etc. by chuck1 Sep 14, 2008 (3:44 pm)
Tire should be re-balanced and rotated every other oil change or so. As far has the brakes are concerned, there are reports of the 4Runner brakes going a long time before replacement. This depends on your driving style. You need to make sure you or your mechanic are inspecting the brakes at the time of the tire rotations.   Cross Terrains should go a minimum of between 40,000 and 60,000 miles. Remember, when you get down to 2/32nds or so this really handicaps your wet traction and stopping ability.   Either rotation sequence is correct. Most shops don't want to bother lowering the spare, and then putting the other tire on that "little round thing" and cranking it back up. It's a tedious process. Obviously, your will get a little more wear rotating in your spare. And after 5 years you will not have to by a new spare (due to aging) when you didn't even use it.   Hope this helps.
#2381 of 2501 Re: Tire Rotation/Brakes [2006toy] by boats3 Sep 17, 2008 (8:34 am)
Replying to: 2006toy (Sep 14, 2008 2:59 pm) In general Michelin's last the longest but are usually the most expensive. However, you should not purchase tires just because it is a Michelin. What you need to do is determine what type of driving you do, highway, off-road, both, etc. and determine the best tire for your needs and your wallet. I personally like Michelin's but the price always makes me look at other options. Depending on what is in the market place guides my decision. I have Michelin's on my wife's Pilot, but on my last car I had BFG Long-Trails and loved them, did a ton of highway driving. On my 4 Runner I have the Bridgestones until they need replacement, won't go with them as a replacement tire. Keep in mind that Michelin's, BFG's and Uniroyal are marketed by Michelin Small American Tires or (MAST) for short.   Check is correct though about the rotation so no need to repeat.   Also, every tire comes with a Tread Wear Indicator which is 2/32". It is located in between the treads. But, if you wait until the tire reaches that indicator you are putting your life and everyones elses in danger when the weather is anything but sunny.   Also, have your truck aligned to prevent uneven tire wear, you should do this at least once a year, others recommend twice.   Brakes life cycle depends on your driving habits as well as how far your typical drive is. City traffic will wear brakes more quickly than highway traffic.
#2382 of 2501 Re: Tire Rotation/Brakes [2006toy] by canddmeyer Sep 19, 2008 (2:40 am)
Replying to: 2006toy (Sep 14, 2008 2:59 pm) 1) Cross Terrrains can last 80,000+, but there are variables so 56K is good just the same. My OEM Dunlops had only 18,000 when they wore out. Get them replaced before the weather changes. 2) Toyota puts great brakes on their trucks. The only time I've read of people doing brake jobs on 2003+ 4Runners is because the rotors warped. 3) I haven't heard of a dealership rotating the spare since the 80's. Time is money these days. Front 2 for back 2 is my experience with any brand of vehicle nowadays. Replies to this message: chuck1 (Sep 19, 2008 7:10 am) ponytrekker (Sep 21, 2008 2:37 am)
#2383 of 2501 Re: Tire Rotation/Brakes [canddmeyer] by chuck1 Sep 19, 2008 (7:10 am)
Replying to: canddmeyer (Sep 19, 2008 2:40 am) Yep, those Dunlops are one bad tire. Many reports on these tires not lasting on other forums. Replies to this message: ponytrekker (Sep 21, 2008 2:37 am)
#2384 of 2501 Re: 2006 4Runner SR5 steering column vibration and clunking [chloe_6] by jomes Sep 20, 2008 (8:42 pm)
Replying to: chloe_6 (Sep 13, 2008 9:26 pm) I think that one of the hiccups of the 4runner has. I have a 2004 4Runner SR5 w/ customized tires & rims (22" rims) and I have the same problem (clanking sound infront everytime i turn my wheel, even when backing up the applying the breaks it makes that sound) really annoying huh!, but I have stopped bringing it to the dealership coz its costing me money everytime I go and they still cant find any solution. Instead i went to a local mechanic here in hawaii and i asked them to check it. They told me that’s its just the break guards. he just shoved the guards a bit to give it an extra clearance, and the clanking stopped , they told me that if the clanking will return coz the guard is just a thin sheet of iron a eventually it’ll be deformed.
#2385 of 2501 Re: Tire Rotation/Brakes [chuck1] by ponytrekker Sep 21, 2008 (2:37 am)
Replying to: chuck1 (Sep 19, 2008 7:10 am) Driving in snow on the Dunlops is pretty dangerous. Akin to climbing Everest in Converse Chuck Taylors.
#2386 of 2501 Tire Rotation/Brakes by 2006toy Sep 27, 2008 (9:24 am)
Thanks for all the advice regarding the "Tire Rotation/Brakes" I'll probably look for new tires in a month or so, which will be well in advance of the tire wearing to the tread line as we use the 4Runner for skiing trips in northern New England. I want some good skins on the rim before our first trip. The forum works!

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