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Dec 14, 2003 (8:46 am)
Never experienced anything like this with my 4Runner's.
Sorry to hear about you unfortunate driving experience. Any vehicle including a snow mobile can be dangerous in snow. Although you were you driving slow, on hilly roads that are ice covered, most every vehicle will skid.
Just a few questions, do not take offense to these, just trying to understand why this has happened. Hope this forum will help, this is a serious problem.
> What model year is your 4Runner?
> Did you buy this new?
> Has it even been in an accident?
> How long have you owned this vehicle?
> If this is a previously owned vehicle, what condition are your tires?
> If used, has this truck been modified in any way, extra large tires, suspension changes, been rebuilt?
> Is this your first SUV?
> Is your 4Runner 2 Wheel drive, 4 Wheel Drive or All Wheel Drive?
> If 4 Wheel or All Wheel Drive, were you in 4 wheel high or 4 wheel low?
> Have you driven in snow before?
> If you have driven in snow before, ever had a problem?
> How deep was the snow?
> Did you notice other vehicles in ditches and having problems on the road surface?
> Was there ice on the surface under the snow?
> Were you ascending or descending a steep hill?
I ask these questions because I am now on my second 4Runner. My first, a 2002 SR5 was a V6 4WD, my current is a 2004 V8 AWD. My 2002 has been driven in many snow storms, the worst in depth was 26". And I have driven this in all conditions including ice, I have never had a problem, the VSC (vehicle skid control) saved me once on ice from going off the road. Driving in snow I have never had a problem. My new 2004 AWD was out last week in 8" of snow with some ice. That AWD system is outstanding, worked flawlessly. No problems at all.
If you are an experienced driver in snow and ice conditions, even a rear wheel drive 4Runner will do fine if driven carefully.
I owned a rear drive Miata for eight years and occasionally drove it in snow. The only time I had problems is when there was over 6" on the road, the ground clearance on that car was less than that so it began plowing the stuff. The 4Runner has about 10" - 12" of clearance depending on which year. If I could drive a Miata in 6" snow, then I feel I could drive a 4Runner up Mt. Everest.
Maybe there is a problem with your 4Runner. All the technology with VSC, ABS, DAC, HAC may be causing something to malfunction.
Possibly someone on this forum can help you. You need to discuss this with the service department at your Toyota dealer as soon as possible. This is not a normal condition for this vehicle. At least never one that I have heard about.
So be careful, I would get this checked before driving in snow and ice.
#180 of 2607 reply to questions
Dec 14, 2003 (12:30 pm)
We bought the vehicle with about 15 K miles on it. It is a 2000. I have driven in snow all my life. My ford pickup in the similiar conditions didn't have any problem. It was "slide" but once let off the gas it would straighten and not slide. The 4 runner was OUT OF CONTROL. The rear end seems to slide around without any warning. My wife is ready to get rid of it. It has scared her too many times. The tires are all ok-- recently checked out. I think it would be wise to get it checked out at Toyota-- something is not right for a vehicle to not be able to stay on the road. It drives fine on dry or even wet roads...
Dec 14, 2003 (12:58 pm)
If you purchased this from a Toyota dealer they may have the vehicle history on file in their computer database.. Otherwise you may need to use carfax: http://www.carfax.com/ to find any unknown history of this truck.
If this was purchased on a private sale you may have a problem getting information. If so, try to contact the previous owner about its snow traction history. Unless you get an answer and solution from someone on this forum, you most likely need to take this to a Toyota dealer to be checked as to why it is having a problem.
I believe the 2000 Limited has VSC, not offered in the SR5. Is yours a SR5 or Limited, does it have 2WD or 4WD?
If this was my first 4Runner and it slid into a ditch while the other vehicles on the road were having no problems, I too would think of getting rid of it. I have never had this experience, for me this is the best tracking and performing vehicle in snow and ice that I have ever owned.
Please advise this forum what you find out. Hope you are able to find out why you are having this problem.
Dec 14, 2003 (5:03 pm)
Are your tires slightly over inflated?
How much tread is left on the tires?
Putting it in standard 4WD, it should be very sure-footed.
#183 of 2607 Rain in w/window cracked
Dec 15, 2003 (6:04 am)
You cannot crack any window on the 4th generation while it is raining! Water pours into every window that is slightly cracked open to assist in ventilation. I would recommend Toyota put rain gutters along each window, like American cars, to eliminate this aggravating situation. I bought the $120 WeatherTech window vents and one of the vents fell off the window and was run over(cracked). So, I don't think the aftermarket window vents are a good solution.
Dec 15, 2003 (7:03 am)
I had a '97 that scared me a few times in the snow and ice. It was definitly one of the reasons I couldn't wait to trade up to the '03.
Maybe it was my tires I don't know. But I never felt that confident in that truck on slick paved roads.
#185 of 2607 2003 4Runner - Rattle from front passenger door
Dec 15, 2003 (1:41 pm)
I read from post#112 that someone else has had this problem. There is slight rattle originating from the front passenger door. It is noticable when you go over a bump. If the 4Runner was not SO quite, it would likely cause me no problem. But now I am listening for the rattle.
Anyone have this same problem? Solution?
#186 of 2607 problems in snow
Dec 15, 2003 (2:26 pm)
I had a few scary incidents in my 99 Durango, none yet in my 03 4Runner. You have to remember that while these are 4WD vehicles and for the most part do handle great in the snow, if you hit a patch of ice going at a decent speed, no matter what SUV you're driving you're bound to have a problem. I have driven my 4Runner for a few hundred miles in pretty heavy snow and never had a problem at all. It is very good at corecting itself... no problems yet! Be careful out there!
#187 of 2607 Sacstate is corrrect about rain And
Dec 15, 2003 (4:28 pm)
I've also had rain/dew from the roof drip down directly on the seats(especially the back)when opening back door when the roof is wet because there is no rain gutter & and the roof/door interface is directly over seat. I think I may give the 'rain vents' a try despite Sacstates bad luck with them.
Dec 16, 2003 (8:17 am)
67gp: I had the WeatherTech VentVisors. They were the 'in-channel' variety, not using adhesive tape. They worked fine, except when it was cold and I rolled down the window at the Post Office and the visor plopped out of the channel, dropped to the ground and the car behind me slowly rolled over it! I wasn't happy enough with them to spend another $50-70 bucks on a replacement. But then again, having water pour uninterrupted into your cracked windows is frustrating and a major maintenance concern.