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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [linacjsdad] by tidester HOST
Feb 06, 2006 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: linacjsdad (Feb 06, 2006 8:42 am)

You might consider getting a pair of rubber grounding strips from an auto parts store. I understand they are effective.
 
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [tidester] by linacjsdad
Feb 06, 2006 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 06, 2006 8:57 am)

Thanks tidester,
Been there, done that. Have them hanging already. Seems to be a tough problem to resolve, especially when others that I know of are not having this issue.
Thanks. linacjsdad.
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [linacjsdad] by tidester HOST
Feb 06, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: linacjsdad (Feb 06, 2006 9:17 am)

Then there's always metal chains but I'm sure you don't want to go that route!
 
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'03 4Runner Xmission Issue, Need Help by rentschl
Feb 06, 2006 (10:08 am)
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Hi,
 
I've got a transmission issue on an '03 V8 4Runner where I was on a 3 hour drive where all of a sudden the Xmission would not go into 4th or 5th gear. I had to drive the rest of the way going slow since I didn't want to red line it in 3rd. I went and read the DTC code and got the following:
 
P0776 "Pressure Control Solenoid B Performance or Stuck Off"
 
But after the car sat for a little while I drove it again and the problem had gone away, so it's intermittent. Looking at the shop manual, the first thing it says to check is a specific solenoid. It seems plausible that the solenoid that they refer to was simply stuck due to the intermittent nature of the failure.
 
Checking the solenoid requires dropping the pan on the tranny. But at this point I'm pretty sure that no problem would show up, since the issue went away. I know the problem will come back at the most inconveinient time, so hoping that "it fixed itself" is usually not wise. I'd be inclined to simply replace the solenoid once I bother dropping the tranny pan since messing with tranny fluid and gasket sealer is such a pain.
 
Before I go to all the trouble though, has anyone else seen this?
 
I've got 65,000 miles on it already, so I'm out of the warranty. I got a Toyota because I wanted reliability. I'm not that impressed to be seeing issues in the Xmission already. This feels too much like something that would be expected on a Chrysler and not on a Toyota.
 
Thanks,
Eric
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [tidester] by linacjsdad
Feb 06, 2006 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 06, 2006 9:27 am)

You know something, that just might work, I do ride a Harley . At least I'll match!!!! lol. I've been scratching my head on this one for quite sometime, my wife and I are both gun shy when we try to get out of the car, don't want to get shocked. I've asked the EE's here at my work if they have any ideas as to what might some of the causes be. They give me some ideas, but to no success. The car acts like a capacitor. It stores a lot of energy and let's you have it when you leave.
linacjsdad.
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Re: '03 4Runner Xmission Issue, Need Help [rentschl] by linacjsdad
Feb 06, 2006 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: rentschl (Feb 06, 2006 10:08 am)

Hi Eric,
As I recall, when I used to wrench for the Toyota dealer, we had that same problem in the Camry's a few years back. They did have a TSB out for that. Regardless, Toyota is very good at covering warranty work even after your warranty expires. If the dealer still does not do it out of good will after giving them a little pressure, ask for the Corporate 1-800 number and they should be more than happy to do "Good Will" warranty work. Toyota Corp. grades the dealership heavily on customer survey reports. I've done it many times when I wrenched.
linacjsdad
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [linacjsdad] by tidester HOST
Feb 06, 2006 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: linacjsdad (Feb 06, 2006 3:07 pm)

There are several contributing factors to the shocking situation. For example, low carbon tires tend to resist discharging more than others. Low humidity and fabric type (upholstery, clothing) also matter. Another approach you may try is to discharge yourself while exiting by firmly grasping a key (or coin or other convenient metal object) and touching it to something metal like your door frame. The idea is to spread the shock over a larger area but, of course, the downside is that you have to remember to do it!
 
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [tidester] by linacjsdad
Feb 07, 2006 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 06, 2006 4:33 pm)

Thanks again tidester,
All have been taken into consideration. I live in sunny Southern California. Of course, I expect to receive my dose of static shock during cold dry winter mornings due to temp. and low humidity, but I still get it just as bad, if not worse during 90 + temp high humidity So. Cal. days. It's a problem 365 days a year. I have done comparison research with other owners of the same vehicle. C
o-workers and family members. None have the same problem. It's just my runner. Those who drive my vehicle experience the same phenomena. (ZAPPP!!!! CRACK!!!) Really, it's a serious, loud audible POP!!! I work at a Space and Airborne facility at this time, and I have consulted a few engineers regarding this problem. I've also changed out my tires to brand which I've used for years on my other 4 Runners that are not high on silica(more carbon) content. No change. And I've also did the OCD method of exiting the car, like you mentioned. Once you roll your hand, even though you are touching metal. ZAPP!!! Sorry to sound like a whiner, but it's been a problem for 3 yrs, and I still owe, so I really don't want to take a major hit on the loss by trading in the vehicle (poor resale currently on V8 Vehicles). I might just let my old buddies at the dealer have it for a few weeks and see what they can find. Man, I hate to leave my car at the dealer(even though I am a former wrencher there). I'm not sure if they can do anything about it though. I've tried once already. I'm hoping to find someone with the same or similar problem who can give me a permanent effective solution.
Thanks again, linacjsdad.
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [linacjsdad] by user777
Feb 07, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: linacjsdad (Feb 07, 2006 8:15 am)

http://www.pei.org/static/
 
Apparently, the danger is really during fueling. Re-entering the vehicle before the pump shuts off is a no-no. Watch the video.
 
Seems as though the friction of the passenger against the seat is what results in the charge being established on the person. Holding a metal object and touching it to the frame makes some sense.
 
I suppose someone might want to try spraying the seats with an anti-static treatment. Perhaps someone might go so far as to wear a wrist strap that is attached to a metal part on the frame of the vehicle. Maybe something could be rigged on the steering wheel to constantly dissapate charge from building up on the body, or design a seat cover that sinks the charge to the frame.
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Re:Any issues with excessive static shock 24hrs, 365 days a year!! [user777] by robm2
Feb 07, 2006 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: user777 (Feb 07, 2006 9:27 am)

Call me weird, but I kind of like the shock. I've had it since day 1 on my '04 4Runner V8. It is quite a ZAP! It can be quite entertaining letting the unsuspecting passenger get out first, and then listening for the scream.

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