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#1422 of 2607 Re: 4Runner Wheel Allignment [dealkiller]
Nov 30, 2005 (11:27 am)
I replied to the previous message. My 4Runner is now still aligned at well over 20,000 miles.
Regarding the lack of immediate steering response and constant correction, I have had that problem in previous vehicles - notably an Isuzu Rodeo and a BMW 535. On both these vehicles there is an adjustment to tighten this up which eventually I did myself as it required tweaking to make sure that it felt right and not too tight. I am sure there is someone technical on this forum who knows exactly what to do with this problem.
As regards the alignment, you really need to find the right technician to do the work. They need to test for tire pulls, bent parts (manufactured incorrectly)which my 2004 Sienna supposedly had. You also need to be persistent and stay there and test it after each change. There is probably a series of settings that will work, but Toyota dealers are going to stay within the manufactures specs for Camber, Caster and Toe. Sometimes new tires are the answer which was the case for my current BMW 540. No one could get the alignment right. Eventually after 20,000 miles I needed new tires and "Voila" now it tracks dead straight.
Also remember some of us (me included) are more picky than the average motorist about these things. Many people don't mind providing the necessary resistance to keep a car tracking straight and only get concerned about uneven tire wear, if that!
#1423 of 2607 Shoulder Harnesses in the back seat?
Dec 01, 2005 (8:56 am)
Do the older 4Runners (1998-2001) have three shoulder harnesses in the back seat? I know they are listed to seat 5 but if they are like our Jeep it is two shoulder harnesses and a belt that goes around the waist of the middle kid. We are looking to buy a used car and want to make sure we can safely transport three kids in the back seat.
#1424 of 2607 Re: 4Runner Wheel Allignment [lazzarich]
Dec 01, 2005 (9:12 am)
Thank you for your quick response. I talked to the assistant manager of dealer service department. He said he probably can not do any adjustment about the "over sensitive" steering wheel. I will tell them your idea about how to make it tight. Let you how it goes later.
#1425 of 2607 Re: 4Runner Wheel Allignment [dealkiller]
Dec 01, 2005 (11:25 am)
Yes. I took it in for an alignment check. Of course the dealer blamed it on tire pressure, the angle of the curb to my house etc. What a bunch of .... Do all of these guys go to the same school of laziness and denial. He did an alignment check and wouldn't you know it... it was off. So instead of doing the alignment check first he started with blaming it on the tire pressure. Anyway, it tracks straighter but I do have a problem when starting from a stop light. Starting from a stop light in the first gear or so it pulls to the left and I have to straighten it out by turning to the right. After it gets up to 20MPH or so it gets better but I am feeling the same thing as you mentioned i.e., the steering wheel feels numb when pointed straight ahead. I am wondering if there is a problem in the rear wheels thrust angle or something. I don't even know if there is any adjustment possible for the rear wheels. I think I am going to go back to see if they can fix the pull at startup.
#1426 of 2607 Re: 4Runner Wheel Allignment [tribster]
Dec 01, 2005 (12:19 pm)
Pull from Start: This typically happens to FWD cars and is termed torque pull. Not sure if it applies here. At some point a technical guy on the forum will let you know.
As regards the ongoing problem - not sure if it is related to thrust angle. There are many adjustments to be made that could probably get the vehicle to track straight. They may however take it out of factory spec and cause tire wear. Dealer won't do that. There is a website that gives "a short course in wheel alignment" that you may find informative.
You did not mention whether they investigated tire pull - I would check that too.
Numb Feel: One of your posts referenced that this started after the dealer tried to solve your alignment issue. They clearly did something. Sounds like laziness not to investigate that further. A tech guy on this forum will be able to let you know if there is an easy adjustment.
As you can tell I have been through this a lot - not sure how we could contact each other but I would be willing to share how I have resolved all my alignment woes.
#1427 of 2607 Re: 4Runner Wheel Allignment [lazzarich]
Dec 01, 2005 (1:02 pm)
Thanks for your response. I have about 1050 total miles on it now. The dealer told me to wait till I had over a thousand miles.
They had checked the tires and rotated both front ones. I think I am going to go in for another vist as soon as weather cooperates. Thanks again.
#1428 of 2607 Re: Shoulder Harnesses in the back seat? [beachbuggy]
Dec 01, 2005 (10:23 pm)
Yeah, rear seat is just two shoulder harnesses and a center waist belt.
#1429 of 2607 Re: 4Runner Wheel Allignment [tribster]
Dec 02, 2005 (1:58 pm)
Took my car to the dealer yesterday. They replaced my driver side mirror because of image distortion. Talked to both the manager and mechanic. They didn't find anything wrong. The mechanic took a test drive, and double checked suspestion (ball joint, tie rod ...). At the time I got the car, it was fine. I can clearly feel my wheels, and it goes straight. I don't know what they did, sounds like they just tightened couple bolts.
#1430 of 2607 Driver side mirror issue
Dec 02, 2005 (2:04 pm)
Dealer replaced my left mirror. But I still think the image reflected on the upper part of the driver mirror (they ordered new) distorted (compared with passenger's side). Does anyone's mirror has the same problem? My luck can't be that bad to have 2 defect mirrors in a row.
#1431 of 2607 Re: Driver side mirror issue [dealkiller]
Dec 05, 2005 (9:19 am)
I see the same distortion in the driver side rearview mirror. I think it is by design. It seems like the objects in the mirror look "squished" or not as tall as if you were looking at it directly. I am not sure why they did this.
On the alignment issues, it pulls to left at startup but then it gets better. I I have around 1100 miles.