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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 1500HD, Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD, Chevrolet Silverado 1500 SS, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, Chevrolet Silverado 3500, Truck
#89 of 767 addl info on prior 04 Silv and other prices/posting
Jan 01, 2005 (6:42 am)
I forgot to include some addl info on my prior posting:
1. MSRP on 04 Silv z71 Crew cab - 37,638
2. MSRP on 05 Silverado Crew Cab Z71 - $39,795
3. MSRP on 04 Titan - $35310
4. MSRP on 05 Tundra - $34110
Just curious to all you reading this message.
1. Which truck would you purchase?
2. I'm looking for best resale value and Toyota came in first, then Titan, then Chevy, then Ford. Anybody have any add'l infor or comments?
In follow-up to a discussion I wrote 12-24-04, I went ahead and confirmed some 04 Silverado prices.
I had looked and test drove 04 Silverado Z71 Crew cab (standard 1500), 05 Cilv Crew Cab Z71, 04 Ford F150 Crew Cab, 04 Nissan Titan Crew, and 05 Toyota Tundra Double Cab.
Prices the dealers were selling these for, as of Dec 31, 2004 were as follows (all bottom lines):
04 Chevy Silv Z71, Crew Cab, standard 1500, 28,919 - taking all factory rebates, incentive, and bonus cash and financing at 6.9% for 5 years. Truck came with standard bucket seats, cloth, Bose speakers, z71 package, tow, package, side steps. No XM FM radio or sunroof.
2005 Chevy Silv Z71, Crew Cab, standard 1500, 30775 - taking all factory rebates, incentive, and bonus cash and financing at 6.9% for 5 years. Truck came with standard bucket seats, cloth, Bose speakers, z71 package, tow, package, no side steps AND XM FM radio AND sunroof. Silver in color.
04 Ford f150 XLT crew cab - 5.4 L V8, moonroof, tow, bed liner, bucket seats, cloth, 29,500 taking all incentives, bonus cash etc. and financiving for 60 months at 7%.
04 Titan Crew Cab, SE, 29990 - taking discounts, bonus cash, rebates, etc, and financing for around 6.9%, 60 months. Included tow, off road, bedliner and a few extras.
05 - Toyoato Tundra Double Cab SR5 - 31000, taking current rebate of $1250 (or maybe $1500 - I can't remember) and financing around 6.9% for 60 months. Included tow pkg and all standard SR5 features with only thing missing was the moonroof.
Lot's of pretty good deals out there for these full size trucks.
#90 of 767 Re: I think I did good [joe29001]
Jan 02, 2005 (6:43 pm)
Instant value coupons of $1,500? What are you talking about here? As for your price you said you received on an 04', I'm talking about an 05' model. Sure you got a GREAT deal on an 04', so did everyone else around Oct. or so. For the dealers were up to their eyeballs in vehicles and GM threw every incentive one can imagine to "move" their bloated inventories.
#91 of 767 Re: I think I did good [jerrymcshane1]
Jan 04, 2005 (7:08 am)
I was looking at a Chevy truck recently and the instant value coupons are still available. The dealer offered 3 ( $500 each) towards an 04 or an 05 truck. Furthermore, the GM Card/GM just offered me $1,500 in GM loyalty dollars towards a new 04 or 05 (won't apply to everyone, but it's a nice bonus).
I did get a good deal on an 04, (with GM incentives and the dealer's desire to move a stale leftover at a minimal profit, or even a loss?). Dealers are less motivated to move an 05 now (at the beginning of a model year) but the GM incentives are as good on a new 05 they were on my leftover 04.
I don't assume that you'll get an October-November type deal now, but I'm certain they'll do better that 20% off of the bloated MSRP.
#92 of 767 Re: I think I did good [joe29001]
Jan 04, 2005 (7:44 am)
Thanks for your input. And will do my best NOT to pay any more than I have to for a new 05'. The instant value coupons still elude me however. NO dealer has offered or even acknowledge they exist. Ditto with internet quotes. The 20% OFF sticker is about as good as any dealer has offered (internet as well as in person) me on a $36K+ 4WD truck so far.
#93 of 767 Re: I think I did good [jerrymcshane1]
Jan 04, 2005 (1:03 pm)
Do you currently own a GM? If so, the $1,500 loyalty rebate should help.
Do you insist on a 2005? There's still some 2004 models in/around Massachusetts (not sure about where you're located). If you think that the deals were good in October, they should be even better now.
Unless you need a gas-electric hybrid or a factory sunroof, a 2004 model would do (if you can find one with your color/equipment requirements - not many to choose from now).
The other differences (on the 1/2 ton models) are:
Larger wheels on the 05 (could be added to an 04).
Dual electric fans - vs. engine driven (not sure this is an improvement).
04 actually had a better standard gear ratio than the 05 (3.73 vs. 3.42).
One model (ext cab, std bed) offers the aluminum (& slightly more powerful) 5.3 (most of the early 05s have the cast iron motor though). I've driven both and can't tell the difference.
#94 of 767 Re: I think I did good [joe29001]
Jan 05, 2005 (4:38 am)
If what you mean by larger wheels is that the 2005's have the option of 17" wheels, then that's also available on the 2004's. (Ask how I know ;o) ).
The electric fans are supposed to allow for slightly better fuel efficiency among other things. It's an upgrade some owners of earlier models are doing to their own vehicles. (there are companies that offer aftermarket electric fan kits for our trucks)
Not only is the 3.73 no longer standard on the 2005's, it isn't even available on them any more. I was shocked that the '05's couldn't be bought with that rear end any longer. Another attempt to push the mileage higher I think.
#95 of 767 Re: I think I did good [jerrywimer]
Jan 05, 2005 (5:34 am)
I guess I was referring to the standard and optional steel wheels (they're 17" this year).
Too bad about the non-availability of the 3.73 gears. Now it really makes sense to spring for the 4.10 gears (they're still available).
#96 of 767 Re: I think I did good [joe29001]
Jan 05, 2005 (7:02 am)
THANKS MUCH again Joe, I do own an 02' Seville I bought new at the end of that model year. A $7K rebate induced me to buy it. GOOD CAR. I have NOT checked the new incentives, if they exist, seeing how the old one's expired 1/03/2005. Once again I'll keep hammering away here outside of Chicago, if I can find my driveway later on tonight as I return home from work that is. That 4WD would sure come in handy tonight for we're supposed to get 8+ inches of that white stuff. THANKS.
#97 of 767 Re: I think I did good [joe29001]
Jan 05, 2005 (9:49 am)
I missed the fact that the 17" wheels were standard on the 1/2 tons before. I'm not sure whether that's good or not, but it is most likely because the rest of the full size competition has moved the same direction.
I have the 17's on my '04 and it rides pretty good, but I know from experience with the '03 Trailblazer I had before that the 16's actually rode better, at least on that vehicle. The larger wheels look better to me though.
#98 of 767 Pricing on a 2005 Chev 2500HD Duramax
Jan 13, 2005 (10:30 pm)
I am ordering a 2005 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 2WD Crew Cab. I'm located in Central Calif. and a dealer and I have come to an agreement on the selling price on a Duramax Diesel. I will be ordering this vehicle from the dealer with an MSRP price of $42,271 and the final selling price is $37,700. The price does not include any rebates or incentive/discounts available at the time of delivery. This is a 10.8 % discount from MSRP. Other dealers were averaging about 7% below MSRP. After 4 weeks of negotiations with several dealers this seems to be the best deal I could get. One dealer in Bakersfield would not sell at -9.5% on a truck he had on his lot. Said they are to popular a truck to let go that cheap. I'm wondering if this a good price for a Duramax Diesel???
Thank you in advance for your input.