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You are in the Honda S2000
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Honda S2000, Convertible
#481 of 638 Re: 2000 S2000 ? & soft top ? [rockyp]
Aug 06, 2006 (6:42 am)
The 2000/2001 S2000's were known to have gear grinding, especially in 1-2, 2-3 shifts. Eventually, the transmission would need to be replaced. In 2002, they upgraded and strengthened the transmission. There probably isn't much you can do about this in your inherited car, since it's now nearly 7 years old. The dealer I bought my 2002 from had gotten authorization from Honda to replace 2000/2001 transmissions with the new model if the customers complained and it was still under warranty.
My S2000 got the regular 7,500 mile services and oil changes at 3750 miles while I owned it (2.5 years, 20k miles). I would not take the S2000 to an independent mechanic. Honda service is relatively cheap compared to other brands and the S2000 is a limited production, serious sports car. My Honda dealer had only one service team (out of 4) that exclusively worked on the S2000's, because of the additional training required.
I'm not sure about retrofitting a new 2002+ top to a model year 2000. If you really need a new top for other reasons, start by calling a Honda dealer. But, if you don't need one, I wouldn't do it just to get the glass window. I expect it's a $1,000 to $1,500+ job. I have seen 2000/2001 S2000's advertised in the Washington Post for as much as $18,000+. They have great resale value. Drive your 2000 and if you really like it, you might want to consider selling it and putting the money towards a new or low mileage recent model. I know of someone who got a 2006 new for $29,500 a few months ago. Given the cost of tires, brakes, clutch, timing belt, possible new transmission and other things that you may need to put into a 2000, it might not cost you much more over the next 2-3 years to get a new one. You might want to do the math both ways before replacing your top (if it is optional).
How many miles does it have on it and what is the condition?
#482 of 638 Re: Limited Slip Answer [habitat1]
Aug 06, 2006 (12:01 pm)
My thoughts were exactly the same as yours, until I got updated info from a forum on s2k.com. S2ks have a Torsen (torque-sensi) limited slip diff. "Unlike most common clutch-type limited slips, it runs off of worm gears capable of transferring power evenly to the rear wheels when necessary, cornering or accelerating in a straight line. It acts lie an open differential while cornering (unless you accerelerate), and sends power to both wheels at any speed or slip condition. Torsen . . . is basically aospen diff until about 2/3s the way through the corner, then is locks the outside wheel to about 40'45%. The torsen action helps prevent a push in super tight corners. The one downside of the Torsen is that if one wheel is conmpletely off the ground (zero traction) then characteristics of the Torsen will make it basically an open diff, both wheels have to have at least some traction for the unit to function properly." There's more, but this should be enough. Seems the purpose of the limited slip in the S2000 is not to make it go through snow, but to improve acceleration and handling. Anyway, I have first hand and observed experience that if one rear wheal is off the ground it will spin and the car won't go.
#483 of 638 Re: 2000 S2000 ? & soft top ? [rockyp]
Aug 08, 2006 (5:30 am)
For the soft top, try hardtopguy.com. At the moment he has soft tops on sale for 759 bucks. I believe labor is between 1500 and 2000 bucks. And I also believe switching to an 02' with the glass window is OK for your 2000. For reference, you may want to check with the guys from a chapter of s2ki.com. You'll probably get some recommendations for shops and service on your car.
If you want the piece of mind, your 2000 model may be due for a valve adjustment and fluid change (gearbox, rear diff) as well as checking the Belt tensioner pulley...
BTW, that is one heck of an inheritence!
#484 of 638 Problem with Houston Dealer wrecking S2000
Aug 15, 2006 (9:46 am)
There is blog on S2K about a guy in Houston who took his S2000 car to a dealer for service August 2006 and they wrecked his car and will not own up to their responsibility.
I will never take my S2000 to that dealer for service.
#485 of 638 Anyone that is thinking about buying a S2000 2006 should get one!
Aug 17, 2006 (7:22 pm)
I got a lot of good information from this forum when I was looking to buy a S2000 so thank you!!!! ....
At the same time, though, it almost scared me off of the 2000. I am so glad I bought one. Just wanted to give another opinion from an xTR3 Sports Car fan looking for a sports car again.
Noise....what noise!!! I almost didn't buy one thinking it was way too loud. You can run this car and the noise isn't a problem with top up or down. Radio is great. It is roomy in the trunk. We travel to the shore every weekend and have plenty of room for 2 small bags, laptops, and a few other items. If you are someone who has been trying to figure out which sports car you should buy....this is the one. It drives like a dream, you get good gas mileage, the inside of this car is comfortable....5'7". Great Seats....
There are a lot of couples out there who always wanted a sports car or had one in their younger days....I loved my TR3. I drove the Nizzan, Miata, and others and I am so glad I decided on the S2000. For anyone who is looking for a great car...this is it! Buy it, you'll love it. We bought a silverstone with black interior. We will most likely store it from November to Spring but we are going to enjoy this car and use it to go to the shore on weekends and not be concerned with saving it. Life is too short, we plan on enjoying it! This is a 50+ driver with no complaints!!!! Thanks Honda for a Great Gift! That's the way we feel!
#486 of 638 Honda S3000 anyone?
Aug 19, 2006 (9:44 am)
Here's a question for you Honda S2000 enthusiasts.
Would you pay $47,000 +/- for a Honda S3000? Specs would be:
- 3.0 liter lightweight V6 with 350 hp / 240 ft lbs of torque; 8,500 rpm redline
- Upgraded suspension, wheels/tires, brakes to go along with engine.
-Upgraded clutch. NO friggin SMG/DSG. The current gearbox/shifter is perfect.
- Slightly more amenities inside (power seats, upgraded stereo, optional nav, but still sticking with the no-nonsense S2000 approach to performance first, do-dads second.
- Hideaway top with a mechanical boot similar to Boxster / 911. Plus a few tweaks to move the exterior away from Miata and towards Ferrari.
Target performance would be:
0-60 in 4.5 seconds (compare to 5.5+ now, Boxster S at 5.0)
1/4 mile in under 13.0 (compare to 14.2+ now, Boxster S at 13.5, 911S at 12.5)
Skidpad 1.0+ g
Retain go-cart like handling, with curb weight of no more than 2,950 lbs.
Although the subject of such a car came up over pizza and beer, it isn't a completely rhetorical question. It was with a business school classmate of mine who sold his company a few years ago and pocketed about $500 million. We speculated that with a couple thousand pre-orders in hand, we could underwrite a deal with Honda to get them to custom produce such a vehicle, in a limited production run of, say 4-5,000 units. It could be the swan song of the S2000.
Any takers? And no, there won't be any rebates, invoice pricing or anything like that. I realize that the high $40's price is a hefty premium over the current S2000, but the car would handily exceed the former NSX in perfomance and be a big notch up from a $60,000 Boxster S. The BMW M Roadster might as well stop production.
#487 of 638 Re: Honda S3000 anyone? Yes
Aug 20, 2006 (2:07 am)
One taker if skidpad performance is attained, car has useable low end torque + 8k RPM, has hideaway hard-top (requires lengthening rear 1/3 of car), and generally hand-made at Japan factory (for their relentless efforts toward defect-free assembly). Would be a great convertible and positioned between BMW Z4, Boxster, Vette, and new NSX (if ever released). Does Honda listen to current and prior owners of S2000s? Good luck and best regards. JKG
#488 of 638 Re: Honda S3000 anyone? [habitat1]
Aug 21, 2006 (7:33 am)
Yes, to everything except the HT. And I appreciate the "no frills" approach with the current car so I'd even go so far as to leave the NAVI out of the options list. Retain the tossability and nimble attitude of the current car (50/50) and it'll be a winner.
I think I'd opt for the turbo-4 from the RDX rather than the say, a J30 but that's just because I like to work for the power, a V6 may be "too easy" to drive...
But sign me up if it ever came to fruition.
#489 of 638 jkgreer2 & anythingbutgm
Aug 21, 2006 (10:15 am)
Thanks for the feedback.
I'd absolutely require it be made at the current plant in Japan - the fit and finish on my 2002 model was exceptional.
On the hdeaway top / mechanical boot, that's not a big deal, but was one of my personal aesthetic issues with the S2000. It looked nice with the top down and the (hand installed) boot on, but I didn't go through that pain in the rear installation process more than 3-4 times in my 2.5 years. I actually forgot to put the boot in the trunk when I traded in the car and nobody noticed.
I think the high revving V-6 would be the best of both worlds - enough low end torque to be easy to drive around town, but a free-revving 8,500+ rpm redline to reward those who like to "work" for power and performance. I'm not throwing out the things that endeared me to my old S2000, just pumping them up a bit.
O.K., only 3,996 sales to go....
#490 of 638 Re: Honda S3000 anyone? [anythngbutgm]
Aug 22, 2006 (9:59 am)
My opinion X 3,996 then... J/K
Come on everyone, put your votes in!