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Honda S2000, Convertible
#409 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car?" [habitat1]
May 07, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Currently I own a 2006 Carrera S and a 2005 Volvo S 60. I live near New York City and the Volvo serves as a solid backup, particularly in the Winter. However, the more I look at -- and learn about -- the 2006 S 2000, the more excited I become. Since I love the Carrera and cannot afford three cars, the comfortable and safe Volvo would have to go in the event I purchase a Honda S 2000. By the way, I am single, so a two-seater is not a problem. I'm also on my late sixties, but feel like sixteen driving a sports car.
QUESTION: Would it be sensible to commute 20 miles on a daily basis with a 2006 Honda S 2000? Granted, I will need winter tires, but what about inside temperature and snow accumulation on the soft top? In short, is it reasonable to expect making it throughout the winter months with a decent level of comfort?
#410 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car?" [donquixote30]
May 07, 2006 (6:42 pm)
Are you serious?
I had a 2002 S2000 and - as you can probably tell - thought very highly of it. But I now have a 2005 Carrera S Cab. I seriously doubt a Honda S2000 in my garage would get much use if the Carrera stayed. The 997 is a better 20 mile daily commuter and neither of them are practical for winter use, even with winter tires. If you are worried about "snow accumulation on the soft top", it's a safe bet that the question you should have asked is about snow accumulation under the limited ground clearance - of either car.
You seem like a much better candidate for a 911 / Cayenne garage. A 911 / S2000 garage could lead to bipolar disorder trying to choice between them in good weather and having to hitch a ride in the sloppy days of winter.
#411 of 638 HOW do I care for my S2000 TOP? [new owner]
May 08, 2006 (12:04 am)
Hi Friends, I recently purchased an S2000. What is the preferred care/treatment for the top? I tried an archives search, but was unable to find the answer. TIA, Denton
#412 of 638 Welcome to S2K nation, Dentonfly
May 08, 2006 (10:20 am)
And, Congratulations on your S2K. The soft top is vinyl so, any good vinyl top (NOT CLOTH) cleaner and protectant is good - Just don't go with the 2 in 1 suff. I picked mine up at PepBoys. It comes in aerosol sprays and you apply the cleaner first, wipe it clean with a cotton towel, follow it up with the vinyl protectant.(My top is always down and the only two occasions I did need my top, I put the hard top back on. So far, in my 3 months of ownership, I have only cleaned the soft top once just for the fun of it- But, it did the trick nice and easy).
Car washes for the S2K SOFT TOP are a no-no. It even says so on the manual. If you expose the joints and linings to presurized water jets, it will damage them.
The other thing they do recommend is lubricating the joints with Shin-itsu grease, once every 3 months, depending on how frequently the top is used. (BUT HEY!! Why would you wanna use it anyway unless you get stuck in a thunderstorm???
#413 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car?" [habitat1]
May 08, 2006 (3:10 pm)
Habitat 1, thanks for your response and for adding a dose of sobriety to my car-buying thoughts. However, let me clarify my question.
Driving the 997 S in the winter is certainly a no-no, unless the road is clean and without salt residuals. Replacing the Volvo with a Honda S 2000 is only an attempt to strike a balance between driving fun and reasonable winter season drivability at a reasonable cost. I keep my cars garaged, so it is only when parking at work (college campus) that I'm concerned about significant snow fall.
Very seldom New York City experiences extreme snow accumulation to seriouisly interfere with driving low clearance sports cars. Roads are cleaned fairly rapidly as well. So my primary concern is the practicality (in terms of snow accumulation on soft-top and inside temprerature) of a convertible during frigid and snowy conditions. I think it is a doable, but not very comfortable proposition. In the final analysis, my question dealt with
a highly subjective issue.
By the way, I didn't sleep well last night and feeling tired chose to drive the Volvo to work. It was soooo comfortable and relaxing that I felt lucky to have an alternative to the more focused and intense 997. So perhaps I should keep these two opposite specimens until I retire to Florida, and then I may try the S 2000 for tracking purposes. No a bad choice for extending my "youth." Thanks again for your input.
#414 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car?" [donquixote30]
May 08, 2006 (4:02 pm)
Just out of curiosity, as a fellow 911 owner, what do you feel the S2000 would provide you in terms of driving enjoyment or experience that the 997 S doesn't?
They are quite different, for sure, but for me they are both exceptional sports cars. There haven't really been any times that I've hopped in my 911 S that I wished I still had the S2000. I guess it helps that I have the Cabriolet. I assume you have a Coupe? I'm even considering signing up for the Porsche performance driving school. Not trying to extend my youth as much as my driving skills.
#415 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car"? [donquixote30]
May 08, 2006 (5:42 pm)
I hope you don't mind my adding lip service to this question of winter driving the S2000.
Living in MN, I choose to garage my "S" during the snow season. However, I know a few brave souls who manage to drive the S in the snow. The low ground clearance can be an issue during a heavy snow storm, but it's rapidly cleaned from the streets here too and so that rarely becomes an issue unless you find a side street that has been left unplowed.
The other issue is the tires. I have replaced the oem tires with Yokohama Avid V4s. They aren't "track tires" but they do provide improved traction on wet streets and retain some pliability when temperatures drop below 40, unlike the oem's. They have a "V" speed rating, so they perform well on the streets. I've had the car up to 115mph without any tire issues.
I start the engine and let it warm up outside periodically during it's storage months. The heater does a very good job keeping the cabin "toasty", when outside temps have been in single digits. The top is quite air-tight so I doubt if you would have an issue with cold temperatures with the top up in NY.
I think you could manage to "live" with the S2000 as a daily driver in New York. As you mentioned, I think I would miss the comfort and safety that a larger car provides during bad weather and on those "lower energy" days.
I like your final thought about using the S2000 as your Florida "winter car".
#416 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car?" [habitat1]
May 08, 2006 (5:57 pm)
For the past 9 years, I have owned a set of two cars at a time. Each car fullfiling somewhat different goals.
Specifically, the first set was a Corvette C5 and a 33O Ci BMW -- both coupes. The former driven when weather conditions did permit and the latter for all-season driving purposes. Both are drivers cars, but clearly one more versatile albeit less exciting than the other. Then last summer, following the same logic, I traded those for a 2006 997s coupe and a 2005 Volvo S 60 (stick) 4-dr. I love the comfort, safety, and looks of the Volvo, but if the S 2000 comes close to its all-season capability, then the exciting little Honda becomes a tempting proposition, "but only as a complement to the Carrera."
P.S. When you get to my age, you will realize that extending your youth is more significant than doing the same with respect to your driving skills.
Have you read Carl Lopez's "Going Faster: Mastering the Art of Race Driving"? Superbly written and with incisive details about the art and science of race car driving. It may be a good idea to read it before attending Porsche's driving event. I just got a copy from Amazon.
#417 of 638 Re: S2000: Suitable "only car"? [toydriver]
May 08, 2006 (6:17 pm)
Thanks a lot for your generous and informative thoughts.
I was particularly concerned about chilling temperature inside the cab on frigid days.
I'm not sure yet, but I'm keeping myself entertained with the idea of getting an S 2000 to experience all-season driving fun. Yet I plan to retire within the next two years, so I may wait until I get to Florida to make a move. We shall see.
Thanks again, and take care.
May 08, 2006 (7:29 pm)
If you're ever house hunting in Florida and need someone to drive your 997 around, I'll be glad to offer my services...I live in Westchester