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Honda S2000, Convertible
#399 of 638 Re: Honda S2000 - Noise v Fun [kwinter]
Apr 30, 2006 (5:56 am)
Purchased a 2006 Silverstone/red interior recently. As most posts have stated, the S2000 is an outstanding sports car. The noise issue is all relative. Do you prefer to drive a TL or Lexus? Then the S2000 provides more noise, with most of noise from engine, which is entertaining in my view. Rest of noise is wind noise, which is why I bought a convertible sports car. The engine & wind noises are no more than prior British sports cars, and probably less (memory tends to fade). Those cars were fun because they made you part of the environment you are driving through, v. isolation (Lexus). I have no problems with oil usuage. I do not remember that issue in the one year that I have read about the S2000. I do not check the oil. It's a nearly maintenance free Honda. The only expense that you can expect in 1st year is normal oil changes (every 2,500-3,000 mi.). In the 2nd or 3rd yr, depending on miles driven, the replacement tires will be somewhat expensive, which is a price of owning a sports car. Few people own true sports cars due to trade-offs (grin factor for driving enjoyment v. engine maintenance & wind noise, if convertible). For 2006, the up/down procedure for top takes a minute, if that much time. Enjoy the car when it arrives. It is the best priced true sports car that you will find. Have fun, life is short.
#400 of 638 Re: Honda S2000 - Noise v Fun [jkgreer2]
Apr 30, 2006 (1:10 pm)
Thanks for the response. The oil since it is synthetic does that run you around $60.00 an oil change? Looking forward to getting it. Do you have any trouble with traction when driving yours in the rain or having wet highways?
#401 of 638 2007 S2000?
Apr 30, 2006 (7:04 pm)
Is '06 the final year for the S2000?
#402 of 638 Re: Honda S2000 - Noise, Oil Changes [kwinter]
May 01, 2006 (3:40 am)
I had the "noisier" 2002 model with the 2.0 liter 9,000 rpm engine. Noise was not an issue for me, but was for my wife when the top was up at highway speeds. On the highway, the 2002 was running at about 4,000 rpm at 70 mph. I suspect if I had to sit in the passenger seat most of the time, it might be a little annoying for me too.
I believe the 2006, with the 2.2 liter / 8,000 rpm engine is running at something like 3,500 rpm at 70 mph in 6th gear. If so, it should be noticably quieter than my old 2002 for highway cruising. The engine still emits a shrill scream once V-tech kicks in under hard acceleration (6,000 rpm+), but that's part of the visceral fun of the S2000.
Oil consumption on my S2000 was minimal. I only recall adding 1/2 quart once during the initial break-in. In 19,000 miles I had the oil changed 4 times (every 4,000-4,500 miles / 6 months). My typical oil change cost was $20 + the cost of 5-6 quarts of Mobil 1 which the dealer let me purchase and bring in. By comparison, an oil change in my 911 requires 9 1/2 quarts of Mobil 1 and the dealer labor and filter charge is $200+. As indicated by others, the S2000 is a very low maintenance car. My total maintenance costs over 2.5 years and 19,000 miles was under $350, including the 4 oil changes, a 7,500 mile service and a 15,000 mile service. The front tires had another 30%+ tread life left in them, the rears were nearing replacement.
On tires, I highly recommend Tire Rack for the best prices and selection. I've used them for my TL 6-speed. According to their web site, you should be able to get a good set of four for the S2000 at around $700-800, which is not that expensive for a true sports car. Again, for comparison, a set of four for my 911 S (19" wheels and 30/35 series tires) will run me close to $1,500. One thing I will warn you is that wet weather performance in a medium to heavy rain goes down considerably as the tires near the end of their tread life. True of every car, but especially the lightweight S2000.
The S2000 is a hell of a good sports car. For the purchase price, low maintenance cost and exceptional build quality, it is also an extraordinarily prudent purchase.
#403 of 638 Re: Honda S2000 - Noise v Fun [kwinter]
May 02, 2006 (6:50 am)
Don't run synthetic until you are past the 10k mile mark. The conventional Dino oil is essential for proper break in.
True, if you VTEC your motor often, you may find it burns a bit of oil. But that kind of scenario shows up more if you track her. In my time of ownership, my oil level has been constant and I have never had to add any.
#404 of 638 Re: Honda S2000 - Noise v Fun [anythngbutgm]
May 02, 2006 (9:07 am)
"Don't run synthetic until you are past the 10k mile mark. The conventional Dino oil is essential for proper break in."
Where did you hear/read that? I may be wrong, but I thought my 2002 S2000 shipped with Mobil 1 from the factory. I am absolutely certain that I was advised to use Mobil 1 for all oil changes, which I had done every 4,000 +/- miles.
Given that all Porsches, BMW M cars, AMG's and most other high end / high performance engines ship out with Mobil 1, I'd be very surprised to hear that dino oil is "essential for proper break in" on an S2000. But I'm willing to consider the source of this recommendation.
#405 of 638 Re: Honda S2000 - Noise v Fun [habitat1]
May 03, 2006 (12:20 pm)
It is supposedly noted in the owners manual. I learned through the S2k club that it is good for allowing the cylinders to "Seat" themselves properly within the cylinder walls. I've also read that it nets a few extra horsepower when engine is fully broken in.
I am not a mechanic so I can't back up these claims for sure but I have been following the recommendation.
#406 of 638 Happy with the Gauge Cluster?
May 07, 2006 (7:38 am)
I am debating between a new S2000 and a Miata. I am a bit of traditionalist and prefer analog gauges - the more the better.
I am not sure I will like or get used to the S2K's digital gauges, especially the speedo.
Also, I prefer an oil pressure gauge, rather than an idiot light.
Do other owners wish for an analog cluster with more comprehensive gauges, or do you just learn to love digital and drive merrily on?
#407 of 638 Happy with the Guage Cluster? [kixo]
May 07, 2006 (9:24 am)
Quite the contrary!
The digital tachometer adds to the fun of driving the S2000, especially when you reach the VTEC levels above 6000rpm. This is where the car changes personality and shows you a whole new driving experience. The rapidly progressing digital display that flashes back down and then back up as you "row through the gears" gives you an immediate read on the engine speed.
The digital speedo took no time for me to get use to.
As far as the oil pressure gauge; I guess it might be nice to have one, but the Honda engine really doesn't use any oil (unless it's been abused). If I really want to know about the engine oil, I check the dipstick which tells me more about the oil than reading from a gauge.
I haven't driven the new Miata, and I'm sure it handles very well. However, the S2000 is really a "wolf in sheeps clothing". You won't be disappointed if you choose the S!
To me the digital gauge cluster is something that I enjoy and would miss if I didn't have it.
I wouldn't base my decision between the S2000 and Miata on the gauge cluster, if I were you.
You should make your decision after driving the two cars and comparing how you "enjoy the journey" !
#408 of 638 Re: Happy with the Gauge Cluster? [kixo]
May 07, 2006 (12:06 pm)
I'll call toydriver and raise it.
The Miata and S2000 are two completely different cars. The Miata is a fun, lightweight roadster in the vein of a modern MGB. The S2000 is a serious performance sports car, that is far more comparable to the Boxster S than the Miata in driving experience, notwithstanding it's relatively low price.
If you want an oil pressure guage and analog tach / spedometer, you can go for the aforementioned Boxster or Boxster S at around $47K and $57k respectively. But if you get the Miata, you have purchased a dramatically different car, IMO.