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Honda S2000, Convertible
#163 of 638 Re: S2000 for a day [clint98v6at]
Sep 28, 2004 (3:20 am)
When I bought my 2002 Spa Yellow S2000 (as a third car), my daughters were 3 & 6. When I traded it earlier this year, they were 6 & 9. Not a S2000 goes by us (especially a yellow one)that they don't both let out a load moan about how much fun ours WAS! I'd occassionally take them both back and forth from school on quiet side streets and by the time my oldest was 8, I could take her on short errands or to soccer games. Never broke about 25-30 mph, but she could care less about the speed.
Unfortunately, the S2000 wasn't practical as MY only car and I could justify keeping it when it came time to replace my sedan. But, depending upon where you live, it's not completely incompatible with kids. Unfortunately, the the 4 passenger convertible that everyone can (temporarily) fit in - the 911 Turbo - costs about $100,000 more than the S2000 and it still doesn't elicit the same admiration from my 6 year old.
At least you got to try one out for a day. I think when I look back in 10 years, I might have wished I somehow kept mine. There isn't much comparable in the fun to drive department, certainly not at the price or with Honda reliability.
#164 of 638 Re: S2000 for a day [habitat1]
Sep 28, 2004 (7:24 am)
My kids are 2 & 5, so I really can't justify spending that much money right now on a "fun car". Right now I'm lucky if I get out on my sportbike once or twice a month. Looks like I'm stuck with the Accord and minivan for a while!
Sure was fun driving the S though. I agree that nothing comes close to that much fun at that price. The lack of torque that everyone talks about wasn't an issue for me. I'm used to that with my motorcycle, and I actually prefer a high redline in exchange for less torque. I guess that's just what I'm used to.
#165 of 638 Re: S2000 for a day [clint98v6at]
Sep 29, 2004 (3:06 pm)
I agree - it's a lot more fun driving the S2000 up to 9,000 rpm with it's crisp 6-speed than having a high torque, low rpm "musclecar" IMO. Take care of your kids, they are an "appreciating" asset. As good as the S2000 is, it's a depreciating asset. Just be careful on your sportbike for their sake.
#166 of 638 Re: S2000 for a day [habitat1]
Sep 30, 2004 (7:33 am)
Without a doubt, the kids come first. The S2000 (or something even better) will still be there in the future when it makes more sense for me. For the time being I can stroll the neighborhood streets with the kids in their grandpa's convertible vette.
I hear you about being careful on the bike. Twelve years ago a drunk 18 year old (with no insurance, of course) pulled out in front of me. Spent 3 days on a morphine drip in the hospital with 4 broken bones. My helmet had stress cracks in it, and I'm sure it saved my life.
Now that I have kids, I'm even more careful than ever. I pretty much stick to country roads outside the city, never ride at night, and always wear my helmet, kevlar reinforced jacket, gloves and boots, even when it's 80+ degrees. I try to minimize the risk as much as possible.
#167 of 638 S2K sales figures
Oct 03, 2004 (2:03 pm)
Per October 1 Honda press release, YTD S2K sales through September 2004 are 5,835 vs. 6,297 through September 2003, a decline of 7.7%.
Oct 06, 2004 (9:07 pm)
As I recall, 2004 production volume was reduced significantly. S2000 demand has been dropping for a few years now. At the end of the day, Honda's amazing accomplishment is the fact that they can sell minivans at MSRP far more easily than they can sell posh, sexy convertible sports cars.
#169 of 638 Re: expected [sphinx99]
Oct 07, 2004 (8:30 am)
I agree with your sports car vs. minivan comment, Sphinx. I'm new to this forum so forgive me if this ground has been covered before, but I find it difficult to understand Honda's near-complete lack of advertising support for the S2k. I can only conclude that they developed it for the engineering exercise and are not interested in selling too many.
BTW, I came to a near stop in my neighborhood this morning when I spotted a Suzuka blue '04 in someone's driveway. The sun was shining, the car was clean, and it looked beautiful even with the top up. I was tempted to pull into the driveway and ogle the darn thing.
#170 of 638 Re: expected [ohiocarguy]
Oct 07, 2004 (8:29 pm)
A decent national advertising campaign could easily run $10-$20+ million a year. That would work out to $2,000-$4,000 per S2000 sold. Honda can afford to advertise the heck out of the Odyssey and Accord, both because of the volume of those cars sold and because, in spite of being good vehicles, they have about 10% of the ground up engineering R&D expense of the S2000. Honda also NEEDS to advertise the heck out of minivans and sedans, because again, notwithstanding their quality, they simply aren't that much different than the myriad of competitive offerings from Toyota, Nissan and the rest of the manufacturers and they need to use advertising to help distinguish themselves. If you decide you want a high performance roadster, you have about 3 choices other than the S2000, the closest of which (Boxster S) sells for $60k+.
I think Honda has made the right decision on the S2000 - put the money in the engineering, forget the advertising and sell the car to those with enough interest (and intelligence) to know the difference between advertising "image" and engineering substance. That's a limited market, but works well for a limited production car.
P.S. When's the last time you saw an ad for a 360 Modena, a BMW M3/M5 or any AMG product?
Oct 09, 2004 (8:01 am)
Auto manufacturers generally do not shoulder the cost of advertising for sports cars. We, the buyers, do, when we buy magazines like Car & Driver for a few bucks each, that give us two to three pages of information on the car. The S2000 won't show up in many ads, but Honda will (like AMG, Ferrari) go out of their way to make it available to as many "enthusiast" magazines, gratis as possible.
#172 of 638 04 hwy RPM's ?
Oct 17, 2004 (12:12 pm)
Anyone know what kind of RPM'S's the 04 turns at 65mph ? Also what kind of mileage does one get on the hwy at 65 mph ? I would not be buying the car for gas mileage, but I'm concerned about hwy mileage and how is the road noise at 65mph. Also if anyone knows the same about the 03's your reply is appreciated. Thanks.