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#146 of 604 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Aug 14, 2004 (8:24 am)
do you do 4-wheel alignments and regular tire rotations? Replies to this message: habitat1 (Aug 14, 2004 2:08 pm)
#147 of 604 Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by habitat1 Aug 14, 2004 (2:08 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 14, 2004 8:24 am) And, if you do, that's part of your problem. The S2000 (as well as most sports cars) has different size front and rear wheels/tires that cant' be rotated front to back and unidirectional tires that should never be rotated left to right. Unless you decide to drive backwards every other rotation.   I traded my S2000 in with 18,000 miles and the original tires, although the rears were ready to be replaced.
#148 of 604 by sphinx99 Aug 15, 2004 (5:39 am)
As habitat said, you don't do rotations on the S2000. It isn't an alignment issue, either, the tires wear uniformly.   I'm just assuming that the RE050s wear faster than the S02s did. This is a surprise to me because the Z4 uses runflat versions of these tires and I don't hear the same issue. The only other car that uses RE050s is the Enzo, and I have heard that is a different compound (but same tread pattern).
#149 of 604 Comment from the track by starrow68 Aug 15, 2004 (2:23 pm)
Having spent the last year plus going to road courses and seeing lots of S2000's but very few Boxsters or S's I can say that on a road course the S2000 seems to have a pronounced advantage. When discussion at the track gets around to those two cars the Boxsters are easy to pass IMO while the S2000 with a good driver is really tough to stay close to in the corners. Only seen one Boxster S and it couldn't grade the car based on that driver. Older 911's are common at the tracks but Boxsters just don't seem to have the demographic that wants performance beyond 'fun to drive'.
#150 of 604 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Aug 16, 2004 (8:43 am)
Well must have to do with the tire compound then. Automakers do like to put sticky shoes on the cars as OEM to give you those good handling numbers. Remember how the NSX eats tires?   Also let's face it, if you are in a car like the S2000, you are going to corner aggressively and that takes its toll. I used to get only about 8K on front tires on my Saab turbo no matter which tire I used. I tried Pirelli, Bridgestone and Michelin, all about the same results. Replies to this message: habitat1 (Aug 17, 2004 1:35 am)
#151 of 604 Re: [Mr_Shiftright] by habitat1 Aug 17, 2004 (1:35 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 16, 2004 8:43 am) Now back to you - you didn't rotate your tires on the FWD Saab Turbo? I suspect that car ate tires because of poor balance and a sloppy suspension. A friend of mine had one and, although I thought it was an impressive car for the 1980's, I was amazed at how unimpressive it felt in 1995 after comparing it to my 1995 Maxima SE (not exactly a sports car, either). Although FWD, the Maxima felt much more balanced and didn't plow through the turns nearly as severely as the Saab.   I suspect with the S2000, it is indeed the softer compound. The S2000 drives about as "flat" as any car I've driven (including the NSX). You would almost have to take it to a track to get enough body roll to wear the edges of the tires. With the Saab, a quick exit from the grocery store parking lot would do the trick. My friend used to get 20k miles out of his tires with frequent rotations. Compare that to the 35-40k miles he gets out of similar driving with his 540i that has much higher performance tires than the Saab. Tires don't make up for bad suspensions and, if they try to, you pay dearly for replacements.
#152 of 604 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Aug 17, 2004 (8:54 am)
Yes I agree. Tire compounds are critical on today's sports cars. You put the wrong tires on some of today's hi-po sports cars, and they will literally fly off the road. A lot of what we attribute to the car's "handling" or "suspension" is actually in the tires. Modern tires are a sort of miracle compared to what we had to use ten years ago.
#153 of 604 Extended warranty on used S2000 by toydriver Sep 11, 2004 (4:28 pm)
Just bought a '01 with 20K mi. Looks clean and service records seem complete.   Question is $1200 for a 3 yr (from dop) or 60K total miles extended warranty a good idea. Covers most things except the rag top and clutch (which would be my expectation for possible early problems).   Any responses appreciated. Replies to this message: habitat1 (Sep 12, 2004 2:07 am)
#154 of 604 Re: Extended warranty on used S2000 [toydriver] by habitat1 Sep 12, 2004 (2:07 am)
Replying to: toydriver (Sep 11, 2004 4:28 pm) Did your 2001 S2000 have a transmission replacement or "fix"? I owned a 2002 and waited for the 2002 in part because of the glass reazr window and revised transmission design. Pre-2002's were prone to 1-2 gear grinding.   I raise this because, if it is available, I would only get the "Honda Cares" official extended warranty. Aftermarket warranties are notoriously poor at covering serious problems without a fight.   Had I elected to keep my 2002 past the 2.5 years I owned it, I was prepared to pay approximately $1,050 for a 7 year, 75k total mile warranty (I only put about 7k miles a year on it, so the 7/100 wasn't worth the extra $100 +/-). My service manager said that he even had the Honda Cares warranty agree to cover things like clutch replacement, if they occurred early in the warranty period. Not required, but Honda did so under "goodwill". You would never get that from an aftermarket warranty.   P.S. My 2002 S2000 with 18k miles was perfect and never required any repair, other than a convertible roof latch which broke in the first 30 days. I miss it!
#155 of 604 Habitat 1 Re: Extended warranty by toydriver Sep 17, 2004 (7:01 pm)
I have all service records since new and reviewed the product recall/fixes for this car and don't find that Honda ever recomended any transmission fix for the '01 S2K. 6sp tranny and clutch work great. Have to admit the plastic rear window is cheesy for such a nice car. Thanks to your advice, I did get a quote on the Honda Care Warranty. The 7yr /70K mi quote was $1400 - higher than you mentioned. Maybe it's because mine is 1 yr older and 2K more miles on the odo. Some of my friends who own Hondas are talking me out of buying it, though. The S2K is a "best buy" used car according to the consumer literature. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Sep 19, 2004 7:55 am) toydriver (Sep 19, 2004 4:55 pm) habitat1 (Sep 21, 2004 12:11 am)

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