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What is this discussion about? Honda S2000, Convertible


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Z4 by kyfdx HOST
Aug 05, 2004 (10:47 am)
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The Z4 has a cutoff... most pickup trucks have cutoffs.. the Boxster has a cutoff.. There is really no excuse for the S2000 to NOT have one.... A passenger seat is just that.. for a passenger. No minors allowed? I think not.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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More on behalf of Titan by carliker
Aug 05, 2004 (12:48 pm)
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http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-113958.html
 
Quote: "So let us consider the original question. The S2000 is a bit quicker accelerating to 60 mph than the Boxster S, and they are virtually identical to 100. ("But, officer, it was only in the realm of scientific research.") Their top speeds are virtually identical, panic stops from 60 mph are within a foot of one another, and the Boxster beats the S2000 on the skidpad."
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kyfdx by carliker
Aug 05, 2004 (1:02 pm)
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Cost is an excuse. Honda figures most people who would buy this type of car won't have minors with them. I wouldn't want the price to increase for something I don't even need. If you are set on having minors ride with you, then by all means, get the Z4, Porsche Boxster or most pick-ups. Leave the S2000 for those of us who could care less.
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by kyfdx HOST
Aug 05, 2004 (1:16 pm)
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If you have children, you shouldn't buy an S2000? Hmmmm... interesting concept. You should be in marketing.
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kyfdx by carliker
Aug 05, 2004 (2:05 pm)
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Pretty simple concept for most too though I'm not really sure what your point is.
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by kyfdx HOST
Aug 05, 2004 (3:07 pm)
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My point is that just possibly, every person interested in the car is not just like you. The airbag cutoff is a feature offered in MOST two-seat cars, and to say "screw everyone who isn't just like me, go buy something else" as an answer to someone who thinks it is a feature that should be offered really does nothing to further the conversation about the car.
 
I guess you could start a discussion titled: "Only people who love the S2000 just as it is, post your messages here." But, you might get lonely in there.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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by sphinx99
Aug 05, 2004 (3:20 pm)
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I don't have kids but still wouldn't mind the cut-off. Once I was with a friend and her cute four year old son who wanted a ride. All I could offer was a 3mph top-down crawl around an empty parking lot
 
I do understand why there's no switch though. Although it's softened up a bit, and the standard for "hardcore" has changed, from the beginning the S2000 was intended to be a rather edgy, raw car. I'm sure none of you would get upset over the Lotus Elise not being child-friendly. Well, four years ago in the U.S., the S2000 was the "Elise" of the American market.
 
Honda also tends to be hypersensitive about safety issues. They often have avoided something as simple as auto-up power windows due to the safety concern of children getting their fingers stuck. So, it is no surprise to me that they wouldn't want children inside a small two-seat sports car.
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cutoff and stereo by radiate
Aug 05, 2004 (4:02 pm)
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I have children and feel very apprehensive about taking them out in the car. The car is edgy and it is fun, but i doubt that most of us owners are driving this car hard and fast most of the time. in fact, it is nice to have the option to drive it hard, but i enjoy it just as much as a weekend cruiser. i wish my daughter could too. The issue of safety cuts both ways. Not having the cutoff option may be creating a potential problem as well. Never-the-less, i still love the car. BTW, i recently bought a connector for the stereo head unit that allows my ipod to work directly through the cd changer button. the direct connection is awesome, 700 cd at my fingertips without the sound degradation of an fm modulator
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kyfdx/sphinx by carliker
Aug 05, 2004 (8:48 pm)
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Just as you have the right to mention what bothers you about the S2000, I have the right to counter that by explaining why a certain gripe shouldn't matter. That's actually prolonging a discussion, not bringing it to a halt. Also, if you are going to use quotations, please quote something I actually said. "Screw you" seems awfully harsh.
 
Personally, I wouldn't take a young child in any two seater anyway (just like I wouldn't want them to sit in the front seat of any vehicle). Besides, don't they belong in child seats? For older kids (but still small enough to get injured by the air bag), you can always get a coupe or a convertible with a back seat (like a Mustang, Sebring, PT Cruiser, VW Bug, Audi Cabriolet, Saab 9-3, BMW 3 Series, etc.). Anyway, I tend to be more understanding with gripes that have more to do with the driver (especially when it's a car that's all about the driver). Child passenger gripes should be left for cars that are intended to have them as passengers.
 
Sphinx - Just curious, how much faster would you have gone with a 4 year old in the front seat if the car had a cut-off switch?
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by kyfdx HOST
Aug 06, 2004 (5:31 am)
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My apologies for the paraphrasing..
 
I have a ten-year old.. He sits in the back of my car, still.. But, he went with me on the Z4 test drive (airbag cutoff), and I believe I was going seriously faster than 3 MPH. I don't think anyone drives a car with the intention of crashing it.
 
There are a lot of 2-driver households with two cars and children. My wife was considering the Z4, but I'm sure she would have crossed it off the list if she weren't able to pick up her son from school.
 
"Child passenger gripes should be left for cars that are intended to have them as passengers."
 
I think you are substituting your intentions for the manufacturer's.
 
But, I do agree... This does seem to have prolonged the discussion.
 
regards,
kyfdx

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