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#102 of 604 Re: [sphinx99] by wh9 Jul 31, 2004 (5:27 am)
Replying to: sphinx99 (Jul 30, 2004 3:11 pm) Other than the tire replacement, what else do you find that is a bit more expensive regarding scheduled sservice?
#103 of 604 Re: $35K and Looking to Spend [titan] by radiate Jul 31, 2004 (2:17 pm)
Replying to: titan (Jul 31, 2004 4:10 am) i was in that position about a year and a half ago. all things considered, i opted for a g 35 coupe 6mt which may serve as a reasonable comparison to the 350z. i found the g35 a bit too much of a touring car. too heavy, not a high enough redline and i missed the top down fun. a month ago, i sold the car and found myself looking again. i considered all of the others that you mentioned. the boxster is looking a bit dated now. additionally, i drove one and found that it was less appealing than i thought it would be. the z4 is too funny looking and carries the stigma of the old z3 which is it is a woman's car. no offense intended. i finally drove a 2004 s2000. i drove it with some apprehension as many of the car magazines knocked it's daily driveability. they said not enough torque and too high strung of an engine. the 2004 improvements went a long way to address those gripes. i ended up getting a suzuka blue one and couldn't be happier. it is, IMHO, the clear winner of the fun to drive cars mentioned in your post. Replies to this message: titan (Jul 31, 2004 6:45 pm)
#104 of 604 wh9 by sphinx99 Jul 31, 2004 (5:15 pm)
The tires are the biggest cost. Fuel economy isn't great if you're driving the car reasonably hard, and I just seem to find the interval dealer service (i.e. 15k mile service) being more expensive than other cars I've owned. There's also a lot more upkeep if you're fanatical about keeping the car looking good: shin etsu grease for all the rubber seals, regular doses of 303 Aerospace Protectant for the top, etc.   My first set of RE050s bit the dust around 11k miles (rears) and were a solid $500 to purchase and mount.
#105 of 604 Re: $35K and Looking to Spend [radiate] by titan Jul 31, 2004 (6:45 pm)
Replying to: radiate (Jul 31, 2004 2:17 pm) Thanks, my friend. Classic comment on the old Z3 for it really was a chick car- weak in almost all categories. Each time I have test driven an '04 S2K, I have been unable to push the engine beyond 6K revs. I hae the feeling the engine is really coming alive at this point. Cockpit seems a little noisy from revs but I dig that and it- the cockpit- is damn nice. Tight fit and ergonomics at the fingertips. My only purchase hesitation has been the panach of the Porsche vs. owning Honda. Ironically enough, my family has always driven Honda since I can remember. Thanks, Radiate for the comments as you are making my decision easier.   Does anyone have a decent website that supplies wheels for the '04 S2K? Love the car but Honda could have provided much sportier more aggressive 17's.
#106 of 604 Re: [sphinx99] by topper1 Aug 01, 2004 (5:20 am)
Replying to: sphinx99 (Jul 30, 2004 3:11 pm) Thanks for the rainy day advice and opinion on use as daily driver. I appreciate your taking the time.
#107 of 604 Wow this is great activity picked up on S2000 Forum by midnightcowboy Aug 02, 2004 (7:57 am)
I have decided to buy a 2005 S2000 New Formula Red in Novmeber 2004. I looked around at lots of cars and have had lots of cars and this looks like the best for me.   I live in Houston and it will be a daily driver, a lot of days with the top down on my 25 commute to work.   Power, performance, handling, braking, reliability, slickest 6-speed available.   Thanks,   MidCow
#108 of 604 titan/midnightcowboy by carliker Aug 02, 2004 (10:20 am)
titan - Please do not let the Porsche namesake keep you from buying an S2000. The worst reason to select a car is based on "panache". Not intending to be mean, but that just sounds snobbish and ignorant. The S2000 performs better, out accelerates even the Boxster S, and Car & Driver even believed the interior (such as the steering wheel) was of better quality than of the Porsche. Too many people are set on the names of Porsche and BMW and willing to sacrifice the performance just to say they have one. This is complete nonsense to me since other higher-end Porsche/BMW owners probably mock the lower end owners anyway.   About the tires, anything could be better, but I don't see the slightest thing wrong with the 17 inch tires Honda put on the S2000. Why do they need to be anymore aggressive and sportier? The car performs quite well and handles better than any other roadster (near its class) with the tires it currently has. Not one article out of the hundred I've read about this car has commented about the tires needing to improve.   midnightcowboy - I currently have a formula red '04 S2000. I think the red and suzuka blue are a lot more unique on the road than the two silver shades. The black, white and yellow are two that I don't see as much either. The '05s are going to be out in September I believe. It will be interesting to see what Honda is going to be doing after that. Replies to this message: titan (Aug 02, 2004 5:34 pm)
#109 of 604 17" tires.. by kyfdx HOST Aug 02, 2004 (10:46 am)
are an advantage... In fact, the car was just fine on the 16" it had prior to '04. Have you seen the price of 18" tires? The biggest drawback to the S2000 tires is the rate of treadwear.   I personally would rather have an '03 Z4 3.0, but that is just a personal preference. It is nice to have choices like that.   regards, kyfdx
#110 of 604 Re: titan/midnightcowboy [carliker] by titan Aug 02, 2004 (5:34 pm)
Replying to: carliker (Aug 02, 2004 10:20 am) No doubt the S2000 performs better than a regular Boxster, but when it comes to the "S" version, I have reservations that the S2K is out accelerating that car. In the end, both the Boxster and Honda are great cars. One clearly could not go wrong with either selection. For many months now I have found the Honda to be of great value and fine craftsmanship. My only hold up on the Honda is I despise the wheels so there goes another $2K out of pocket expense and the passenger side airbag cannot be cut off. That's lame when you have small kids and want to toy around with them in this car. Brings me back to an earlier questions and that is: anyone know of a solid website for wheels?   Any reports on a new color for '05?   Does anyone know of a dealership that has a silverstone w/ red interior?
#111 of 604 titan by carliker Aug 03, 2004 (6:57 am)
I still have no idea why anyone would despise the stock Honda wheels. Do you want 18" tires, new rims, "never die" ultra tread? What's the deal? The tread may wear, but that's the case with most sports cars. There is NO reason to spend $2K on new tires. I haven't put enough miles on mine to determine any long-term tread issues, but there isn't any other vehicle that handles better near the price. Obviously, a lot of that has to do with the tires Honda chose. The Lotus Elise ($8K-$10K more) doesn't even have 18" tires (17" on rear, 16" on front). At least Honda tires don't have the 350Z problems.   The Honda S2000 DOES out accelerate the Porshe Boxster S. If you enter 2004 Porsche Boxster S acceleration times in a search engine, you'll find out that it goes 0 to 60 in 5.7 seconds. The 2004 Honda S2000 accelerates to 60 in 5.4-5.5 seconds according to two separate Car & Driver articles (among others I've read). The regular Boxster only goes to 60 in 6.4 seconds. The S2000 just doesn't break as well as the Boxster S.   Finally, this vehicle wasn't made to drive kids around. It's a ride for sports car enthusiasts. Who cares about a cut off switch when a small kid shouldn't be in the passenger seat anyway? Go buy an SUV or a sports sedan for that. An intelligent economic decision is hardly "lame".   Most dealerships carry silverstone with either red or black interior. It's a common color so it shouldn't be difficult to find at a dealership near you. Replies to this message: titan (Aug 03, 2004 3:15 pm) sphinx99 (Aug 03, 2004 9:29 pm) titan (Aug 04, 2004 3:07 am) and 1 more...

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