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Re: Something strange... [oldfarmer50] by tidester HOST
Sep 26, 2007 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 26, 2007 6:59 am)

1.) What would make the National Base Price go HIGHER later in the season?
 
Could it be the plunging dollar which makes it more expensive for manufacturers to buy components from outside the country?
 
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Re: Something strange... [tidester] by im_brentwood
Sep 26, 2007 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 26, 2007 11:23 am)

Tidester,
 
I figured that he was talking about the base TMV price... MSRPs almost never go up late in a model year.
 
I assume that if, say, Sticker was $22,000 invoice was $19,500 and TMV was, say, $20,100 that he saw TMV go from $20,100 to $20,600.
 
Did I assume correctly or did I gloss over a post and goof up again?
 
Bill
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Re: Something strange... [im_brentwood] by oldfarmer50
Sep 26, 2007 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: im_brentwood (Sep 26, 2007 11:37 am)

"...Did I assume correctly..."
 
Yes you did. Edmunds lists the MSRP and invoice (both of which are unchanged). Next they list "National Base Price" which is usually somewhere between the two. This is the number that went up. This I assume represents the average for sales nationwide not considering any regional factors.
 
Edmunds also include a separate "regional adjustment" which factors in local conditions. I've seen this change from month to month but not by much. They also include "color adjustment" and delivery separately. The total of all these is TMV.
 
BTW, this is for 2008 models I am looking at so I don't think low supply had anything to do with it. Maybe one of you guys on these forums went out and got "clubbed like a baby seal" and skewed the average.
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Re: Something strange... [oldfarmer50] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 27, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 26, 2007 3:48 pm)

Factory-to-dealer incentives are included in TMV, but not customer rebates.. A shift from dealer incentives to customer rebates could change the TMV base price...
 
Can't speak to this specific case, but that is one possibility..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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TMV missing rebates by oldfarmer50
Nov 09, 2007 (1:58 am)
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Today I was checking TMV for a 2007 car I'm tracking to see if the rebates have increased. Where previously was listed a rebate amount in the TMV calculation it said simply "available". I clicked on this and was shown a list of $500 rebates for special groups such as military or recent grads.
 
The funny thing, on the same page was an advertisement for the same car promoting a $2000 unrestricted rebate. TMV didn't list this. Why would this be?
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Re: TMV missing rebates [oldfarmer50] by kirstie_h HOST
Nov 09, 2007 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 09, 2007 1:58 am)

Might be a mistake. If you get time, you are welcome to report it using the "help" link at the bottom of each page - those e-mails go directly to the right team. My powers stop here
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Re: TMV missing rebates [kirstie_h] by oldfarmer50
Nov 09, 2007 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Nov 09, 2007 12:50 pm)

"...report it...My powers stop here..."
 
Thanks, I think I will report it. As for your powers, I hear they are considerable.
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Re: TMV missing rebates [oldfarmer50] by isellhondas
Nov 09, 2007 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 09, 2007 1:10 pm)

Considerable indeed.
 
Luke Skywalker would be in awe.
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Thanks Edmunds by jim1462
Jul 20, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Thank you for reformating your "research and spec" back to the old format. Now I can get the info for the model I interested,i.e. deluxe vs base.
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by john44x
Sep 07, 2008 (7:44 am)
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I checked few cars True Market Value from begining of 1990 and it was like 800$ max with best configuration and condition, in www.autotrader.com this cars were priced 800-2000$, why there's such difference?

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