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Re: TMV values for high-mileage vehicles [humanengr] by tidester HOST
Jan 15, 2007 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: humanengr (Jan 14, 2007 11:18 pm)

Oh, I certainly agree there probably are other factors such as the resale value of parts and so on. I just don't know in any detail how the figures are arrived at in TMV. You may want to consider using the "Contact Us" tab in the help section (see link at bottom of this page) to get in contact with the people who do the TMV.
 
Also note that even a 10% annual depreciation rate results in a very small amount of depreciation on a $500 vehicle compared to that on a $50,000 vehicle, $50 versus $5,000. In any case, there is a theoretical minimum for the value of a vehicle: $0!
 
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Re: TMV values for high-mileage vehicles [humanengr] by cccompson
Jan 15, 2007 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: humanengr (Jan 14, 2007 10:09 pm)

Both factors have to come into play. The number of cars that survive to reach extreme mileage (say 350K) is small and they simply don't come on the market very often. Above 200K, mileage is going to have little impact on value. This latter factor fuels the former - folks just drive 'em into the ground.
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TMV is biased toward Honda and Toyota by hansienna
Jan 15, 2007 (5:33 am)
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When checking pricing on NEW vehicles, the TMV is ALWAYS higher for Hondas and Toyotas than the dealers will sell either and ALWAYS lower than the dealers can sell a DaimlerChrysler.
 
However, Edmunds TMV for my used 2006 Sienna LE (less than 3,000 miles at the time) is NOW $ 183 HIGHER than a Toyota dealership quoted me in writing on May 1, 2006 even though the vehicle now has 9,200 miles on the odometer.
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EXAMPLE of Biased TMV by hansienna
Jan 15, 2007 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: hansienna (Jan 15, 2007 5:33 am)

I met in person the internet salesman at a local Honda dealership where I was given a written quote of $ 26,788 for a NEW Ocean Mist Metallic 2007 Honda Odyssey EX (cloth) MSRP $ 29,290.
 
Edmund's TMV for the NEW Ocean Mist Metallic Odyssey EX (cloth) is now $ 28,886. That my friends, is a HUGE difference of $ 2,108.
 
I purchased my 2006 Sienna NEW (7 miles on odometer) a year ago for much less than Edmund's TMV.
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Re: EXAMPLE of Biased TMV [hansienna] by shoparound
Jan 15, 2007 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: hansienna (Jan 15, 2007 5:43 am)

throw grains of salt over your shoulder when getting accurate info via Internet. that's why we shop at least 3 dealerships and send in purchase requests through all online "quick quotes" using area codes within a 30-50 miles radius (territories overlap)... shopping around saves big money.
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Re: EXAMPLE of Biased TMV [hansienna] by abraindrainer
Jan 15, 2007 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: hansienna (Jan 15, 2007 5:43 am)

TMV is junk!
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Re: accurate info via Internet? [shoparound] by hansienna
Jan 15, 2007 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: shoparound (Jan 15, 2007 6:00 am)

I went to the Honda dealership and met the Internet Manager in person since he had made an excellent deal on a 2005 Ody EX for my nephew on November 30, 2004 (about $ 3,100 below MSRP).
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TMV values on used F250 Diesel by cparker741
Jan 21, 2007 (7:30 am)
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I am finding a huge difference ($2000 to $3000, 10 to 15%) in TMV pricing and what dealers (and even private sellers) seem to be willing to take for 01 to 03 F250 Diesel 7.3L crew 4x4. Over the past several years I have purchased several used vehicles (so I am familiar with adjusting for mileage, condition, options, etc) and have found the Edmunds TMV to be on the money, you had to work for the price, but you got it! Has something changed in the F250 market or in Edmunds TMV calculations or do I just need to keep trying? The one item that jumps out is the average mileage, the diesel's all seem to have much higher mileage than the gas models. Could this be the problem?
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TMV vs KBB vs NADA by oldfarmer50
Jul 13, 2007 (2:14 am)
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Today I ran a car I had seen in an ad through Edmunds, KBB and NADA just to see how close I came to the asking price. Here's my results.
 
Asking price: $13995. TMV: $11000 KBB: $14000 NADA: $13000.
 
Quite a spread. No wonder dealers are using KBB to set their retail price these days. Of course in my area we often see prices of KBB plus 2K.
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Something strange... by oldfarmer50
Sep 26, 2007 (6:59 am)
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I have been tracking a couple of cars on Edmunds TMV mainly to see how the rebates increase during the year. Usually as time passes the rebates increase and the "National Base Price" slowly declines.
 
Yesterday I checked one of my cars and found that the "National Base Price" had gone up about $450 since the beginning of the month.
 
This leads me to ask two questions:
1.) What would make the National Base Price go HIGHER later in the season?
2.) Why would this price figure go up at the end of the month when we are told all the really fantastic deals are to be had?
 
The cars I'm tracking are mid-priced sport coupes, not rag tops or exotic sports cars.

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