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Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class, Coupe, Sedan
#9 of 28 Dimensions
Nov 08, 2003 (7:49 pm)
I read at Edmunds it is 3" shorter than the E sedan; yet I read in Automobile magazine (Dec issue) that it is "as long and as wide as an S-class".......Which is it? Anyone knows?
I would agree that the looks may take getting used to it, and it does look Japanese; my greater dislike is the dash.
#10 of 28 CLS is a go.
Nov 18, 2003 (2:08 pm)
According to the lastest from www.autospies.com, the CLS is being prepared for production. I actually like the design. (FYI, current Lexus owner, former Mercedes owner)
#11 of 28 Maybach?
Jan 16, 2004 (6:21 pm)
looks like Hyundai to me.
#12 of 28 Sharp Design
Jan 22, 2004 (9:33 am)
Reading the message board, I thought it was just BMW owners who are complaining about the evolution of the designs. I presently have a 2003 540i, and while I'm not 100% sold on the new 5 design, it still has a fresh look that I believe MB is lacking, until I saw the CLS. Cutting edge design, and while it's a total departure from the current conservative MB designs, change is not always a bad thing. The CLS will be on my short list when my lease expires.
Jan 22, 2004 (9:13 pm)
Regardless of its styling, I don't understand why MB needs another vehicle in its lineup. If it is 3 inches shorter than an E-Class, that would put it at 186.7 inches in length, or 8.5 inches longer than a C class. The C and E are currently spaced far enough in price where they don't compete with each other for clientele. By throwing a model in between costing in the neighborhood of $40k for a V-6 and $50k for a V-8, it causes internal competition with the E-Class.
About the styling, I when I first saw the design, I thought it was an exercise for the next E-Class. That couldn't be right though, the E-Class had just been updated two years ago and was selling pretty well. I find it pretty strange that a car manufacturer is introducing two similarly sized, fairly similarly styled, and comprably priced vehicles back to back. IMHO, I think they should have used is design as the next E-class in 4 years or so. By then, it might not look as radical and a new class wouldn't be treading on any other models' ground. Personally though, if I want an edgy, sporty car for $50k, I'm not going to be looking at a Mercedes sedan.
Jan 23, 2004 (2:30 am)
Well thats the whole point of the CLS it isn't "needed" they just wanted to do something different. I've heard different things about it's size, some are saying its as large as a S-Class, but it does use the E's platform, so.....
I too didn't like the styling, and I'm still not crazy about it, but I figure as long as they don't go that route with the next S-Class (the next new Benz a comin') they can do whatever they want with the CLS. Who knows they might win over a new group of buyers that would have never considered a Mercedes before. The next E won't arrive until about 2009 or so, it was brand new for 2003.
#15 of 28 Why Continued
Jan 23, 2004 (8:38 pm)
If the point of the car is to compete against the E Class, it's a big risk for MB to take in a time when DaimlerChrysler is in some serious financial problems. It costs tens of millions of dollars to develop a car that may or may not succeed. MB for the past several decades had a certain niche in the automotive world and certain cars to fill that niche. Taking a chance and trying to make an overpriced German version of the new Lexus G430 when you already have a sports sedan in your lineup I think is asking for one of the models to fail. We'll see if MB can create a new market and draw some buyers away from say a 5 series, or if we will see the CLS lining Benz dealerships.
#16 of 28 Vison Grand Sports Tourer
Jan 24, 2004 (2:35 pm)
I've heard that it is close to the Pacifica- I remember the Pacifica being badged as a "Sports Tourer" The new punch line in Pacifica ads is "Well beyond the SUV" The Pacifica isn't selling well, I wonder how the Vison Grand Sports Tourer will do.
Jan 25, 2004 (10:05 pm)
Well the CLS isn't going to be produced in anywhere near the numbers the E-Class is. Secondly the CLS will be priced a lot higher and won't compete directly with the E-Class, its strictly a 4-seater. The CLS uses mainly off the shelf parts and thus didn't cost nearly as much as totally new model would have cost.
There is a huge price gap between the CLK and CL Coupes, of which the CLS is attempting to fill. People who buy E-Classes want practicality, the CLS won't be too good at that its more of an indulgence.
I see no resemblance to the new GS, the GS is far less svelt. I predict the CLS will be a hit, its different looking for a Benz, and afterall a new Benz is hot no matter how it looks, the new CLK proves this.
Jan 26, 2004 (1:42 pm)
Any clues about price point of this model? Looks like it is meant to go head to head with BMW's new 6 series ($70k).