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Nissan 350Z, Coupe, Hatchback
#403 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [qbrozen]
Oct 27, 2005 (5:21 am)
2003 Nissan 350 Z - Track
Front tires force balanced due to cupping/feathering at 2000 miles.
Front tires replaced because force balance failed to correct problem- Nissan states problem due to incorrect alignment at factory.
Unable to get headlights aimed by three dealers in two states-they all said the headlights are not adjustable. Headlights aimed after I called Nissan and they instructed last dealer.
Drivers window motor failed- replaced under warranty -
Gas gauge/fuel pump defective-replaced under warranty -
Auto dimming rear view mirror defective- replaced after arbitration with national BBB because Nissan refused to send Factory rep to check after two dealers said it was ok even though it would not dim and they would not take it to try driving at night- Now works properly.
Dealer charged me for alignment-even though still within 24 month alignment period which has now been extended to 36 months- Nissan to refund- still waiting for refund eight weeks later-after faxing bill to Nissan twice.
Passenger window motor defective -replacement cost $525 - Car two years old with 40,000 miles.
Worst transmission of all cars listed - extremely difficult to shift-notchy- Latest Nissan dealer states that it is "Race type" transmission and that is why it is so difficult to shift.
Over 100 individuals have filed formal owner complaints with the NHTSA -No other vehicle has anywhere near this number of complaints.
National class action lawsuit pending.
It is a terrible shame that such a beautifully is so poorly built and so terribly supported.
#404 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [jmills]
Oct 27, 2005 (5:50 am)
I already know the problems you've had. How could I not?
My assertion still stands ... not EVERYONE has those problems. And, believe it or not, MANY folks have NO problems. As always, those with problems are much louder than those without ... stands to reason, of course.
I'm really not trying to belittle your bad experience. I truly feel bad for you. But, at the same time, its certainly not fair for you to say they are all junk and nobody should buy one because they absolutely will have problems. Its just not true.
#405 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [qbrozen]
Oct 27, 2005 (7:27 am)
Cars are very complex devices and will probably experience problems. We all live with that fact.
However the manner in which these problems are corrected is the determining factor.
There is a action suit in progress against Nissan because of the manner in which they addressed the suspension problems.
How many other automakers have had class action lawsuits filed against them.
Take a look at the NHTSA web site- No other car has even close th the number and variety of user complaints.
However my complaint is NOT the Car it is Nissan and their dealers.
Nissan has consistantly failed to correct the suspension problems.
Nissan has consistantly denied the existence of clutch and transmission problems.
My complaint is not that my car has problems - It is the fact that No attempt has ever been made by Nissan to actually correct their suspension or transmission or variety of other problems- they just ignore or stone wall the problems until most people give up.
Enough owners have reported problems that Consumer Reports removed their check mark of approval from the 2003 Z - Keep an eye on their ratings and you will probably see the same happen to the 2004/2005 as their problems are reported.
If the problems with my car had been corrected without multiple complaints to Nissan and the BBB I would have no complaint - They were not.
I certainly do not say all 350 Z's are junk!!
I do certainly say Nissan factory service and dealers are substandard.
#406 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [jmills]
Oct 27, 2005 (9:08 am)
The 350Z is a terrific car. If Nissan would just acknowledge and address the 3 major problems, Suspension, tires, and Clutch/transmission. I swear once the lease is up on this Car I will never ever, ever buy a Nissan vehicle again. Nissan North America along with its dealers should be ashamed of themselves.
#407 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [jkilcullen]
Oct 27, 2005 (12:02 pm)
I agree with you completely.
It is a terrible shame that such a potentially terrific car has such deplorable service and factory support.
I too will never buy any Nissan product of any kind whenever possible,and will do everything within my power to keep others from purchasing Nissan,
#408 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [jmills]
Oct 27, 2005 (12:35 pm)
See, its that last statement that i just don't completely follow. I really don't wish for any company to go out of business, and that is what you are saying, you want nobody to buy any, so they would inevitably fold. Its just not something I want to see. In my opinion, we've already lost too many companies here in the states that I pine for.
#409 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [qbrozen]
Oct 27, 2005 (1:38 pm)
I have never - repeat never- dealt with any reputable company which refused to have a factory service representative meet with me and look at their product.
Nissan absolutely REFUSED to arrange to have a factory service rep look at my car.
Any company which acts in that manner is not reputable and deserves to suffer.
We have not lost any companies in this country that did not deserve to go out of business.
Companies who do not provide quality products and good service do not deserve our support.
In point of fact, since this is a French owned and run Japanese company, and the product was designed and built in Japan, your concern is ill placed.
I would also point out that my 2004 Mazda 3 5 door assembled in Japan, which is 15 months old with 35,000 miles,my 2002 Acura RSX type S, and our 2002 Subaru Outback, have not experienced a single problem or failure of any kind and have received superb dealer and factory service.
So obviously there are still Quality Japanese auto manufacturers and dealers, unfortunately that just does not include Nissan or it's dealers.
#410 of 549 Re: Is the 350z good as an everyday car? [jkilcullen]
Oct 27, 2005 (4:34 pm)
You just summed up what everybody else thinks. You lost ALL of your credibility. Why in the world would you LEASE a car in the 1st place? My Z is great. It's 3 years old and never had a problem.
#411 of 549 The dealers
Oct 27, 2005 (4:37 pm)
I agree about the dealers. I've had my pathfinder in and out for a month now trying to get the AC to turn off. No Luck. The service department is terrible... Good luck to the future parents!
#412 of 549 Re: The dealers [bgreen3]
Oct 29, 2005 (3:24 am)
I am an owner of an '03 350 purchased in May of 03. I currently have 65K miles, I suffered the front end alignment issues which lead to cupping of the tires, which caused tire growl.
I went to the dealer about this at 10K and they said they were cheap tires and I needed new tires. They did check the alignment and said it was at factory specs and it helped somewhat.
At 38K, I replaced the tires with Michelin Pilot Sports All Season, though pricey, the car handled like a new car, I could not believe tires could make that much difference in the handling of a vehicle. To this day, I do not understand why Nissan, would put those RE040s on the car.
My next problem occured this summer when the passenger window motor started acting up, the dealer said the motor is bad, and a new one would cost around $400. The window will go up and down; however, if it goes all the way down, it will not come back up, you have to bang on the lower inside of the door, and then the window will go up. But it will go up and then come back down and stop halfway. So for now I just keep it up and do'nt use it.
Just this past week, I noticed that one of my driver side front speakers appears to have a short in it. That doesn't bother me too much, cause I had planned on replacing the speakers.
From where I sit, it appears that the Z was a new design from top to bottom, and most experts will say you do not buy a new design in the first year because they will have bugs in them, you wait until the second year after most of the bugs have been worked out.
So after 65K, it may cost me around a $800, for the window and new speakers, and the tires werre 850 for a set of 4 at 38K miles, so I'm not complaining. However if I had an '04 or later, I probably would be, since I feel that Nissan would have had enough time to work out the bugs.
This is my second Z, I have an '80 280 on blocks in the garage. I've also owned 2 Accords, and both were excellent in terms of build quality reliability,
I am currently deciding whether to purchase an '06 Roadster, or an '06 G 35. Coupe.
I can understand the feelings of someone who has gotten a lemon and the shaft from his local dealer, and if that had happened to me, I wouldn't purchase a Nissan product and would advise my friends also. That being said, I believe that overall Nissan makes extremly good cars. If I had to rank the top cars, and using quality, reliablity. I would have Honda and Toyota tied, with Nissan following closely behind. If I ranked based on performance, I would have Nissan followed closely by Isuzu.