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Re: Doc fees [serenoa1] by atoews
Jul 04, 2005 (8:18 pm)

Replying to: serenoa1 (Jul 01, 2005 3:39 pm)

Sorry I am so late responding.
 
In answer to your question, posters' deals should NOT include govt charges like tax and license, but SHOULD include all other charges, particularly dealer charges. That helps to keep the dealers from nickel and diming you to make their deals sound better.
 
When I poll Edmund's posters for their deals, I try and make certain that the quotes the posters provide are all consistent, but of course I have no way of enforcing it. That is why it helps to have lots of quotes.
 
In summary, once again, if a dealer gives you quote, and then adds a doc fee to that, you need to add that doc fee to get your %MSRP. Example: MSRP is $35,000. Dealer says he'll let you have the car for $32000. Then he adds a doc fee of $500, which makes your car cost $32500 before license, tax registration, etc. You calculate the %MSRP using the $32500 number.
 
If you do it this way, you should be consistent with other Edmunds posters.
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ES 330 price by erasmusmrr
Jul 10, 2005 (2:44 pm)
How is $34,100 for a new 2005 es 330 fully loaded including navigation. is that something i should grab? I am a little worried about the transmission im reaqding about on here. let me know. thanks
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Re: ES 330 price [erasmusmrr] by frisconick
Jul 12, 2005 (8:35 am)

Replying to: erasmusmrr (Jul 10, 2005 2:44 pm)

Sounds like a good deal to me. But is that the OTD cost? If not you can tack on a couple of extra grand for sales tax alone, unless you live in a state like Nevada that has no sales tax, or very low sales tax.
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Re: ES 330 price [frisconick] by erasmusmrr
Jul 12, 2005 (1:50 pm)

Replying to: frisconick (Jul 12, 2005 8:35 am)

tax and fees are on top of $34,100, but still isnt that an excellent price for a fully loaded car?
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Re: ES 330 price [erasmusmrr] by bikegal
Jul 12, 2005 (3:49 pm)

Replying to: erasmusmrr (Jul 12, 2005 1:50 pm)

Some posters have gotten the fully loaded ES for under $32,000. Mostly Cali folks.
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Re: ES 330 price [bikegal] by erasmusmrr
Jul 13, 2005 (10:32 am)

Replying to: bikegal (Jul 12, 2005 3:49 pm)

How is that possible? Isnt the invoice lower on that car for fully loaded?
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jhwk by jhwk
Jul 13, 2005 (12:00 pm)
I am looking at a 2005 ES 330 dealer demo with premium package and window tinting with 4,981 on it. The dealer has quoted a price of $31,498 (approx 90% MSRP). I got an internet quote from another Dallas/Ft. Worth dealer for a new ES for $31,698 (91% MSRP).
 
My question is what do you think a realistic price reduction should be to account for 1/2 year warranty (the inservice date was 1-25-05) and the 5,000 miles? I have to believe the dealer is not going to expect to get the same for its demo as a brand new car. I would like to save extra money by buying a demo if the numbers add up.
 
What do you think the %MSRP should be for the miles and 1/2 year less warranty?
 
Thanks alot!!
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Re: jhwk [jhwk] by spyderred
Jul 14, 2005 (6:18 am)

Replying to: jhwk (Jul 13, 2005 12:00 pm)

The dealer can ask for whatever they want. It is up to you to negotiate a fair price.
 
Keep in mind that we are almost at the end of the model year. Personally, I would not buy the demo unless it was discounted at least $3,000 compared to the new vehicle price. I bought my 5 series BMW from a dealer in So. Cal. The car had 3,000 miles and it was about 9 month old. A new 5 series BMW at the time when I bought my car was selling for about $1,500- $2,000 below sticker. I bought mine which was NOT used but a BMW company car for over $6,000 below sticker.
 
I helped a friend buy a ES330 about a month ago with Nav. package and few other things, MSRP $37,119 for $32,309 + $45 doc fee + $8.75 tire waste fee + TTL. You can look at post #895 above.
 
Good luck with your negotiations and keep us posted.
 
Spyderred.
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Re: jhwk [spyderred] by jhwk
Jul 15, 2005 (10:00 am)

Replying to: spyderred (Jul 14, 2005 6:18 am)

The dealer would not deal at all on the demo. They said $31,000. We told them there was absolutely no way we would do that. We would purchase new if the demo was 31K. We arn't in any hurry, so we are having an auto broker look for a low mileage 330 which is what we started out looking for in the first place (we wanted to spend under 30K). The best any of the Dallas/Ft. Worth dealers would do on a new car with premium package (CD changer, Wood steering wheel and knob, 17" wheels, rear sunshade and heated seats) is $31,500 and they said invoice is $31,144. Edmunds has the invoice at around $30,850. Do they have different invoice prices?
 
If the auto broker can't find anything then we will most likely look for a new 330, but it will be in August closer to the '06's coming out and maybe they will be willing to deal more.
 
Thanks alot, Jhwk
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Re: jhwk [jhwk] by bikegal
Jul 15, 2005 (4:08 pm)

Replying to: jhwk (Jul 15, 2005 10:00 am)

Your experience is a bit like mine. I wanted a used 2004 for $30,000. Only carmax came close with one with 3,500 miles for $31,000.
 
Went to the dealer in Dec. and got a brand new 2005 for $32,000! It has leather/cooled seats, 6 disc cd, hid/auto wipers, wood steering wheel, rear sunshade, 17inch tires, cargo net/mats, etc.

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