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What is this discussion about? Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan


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finally i have it by carbeku
Jan 10, 2005 (6:02 am)
Got a 2005 ES 330 fm a Boston area dealer (walpole/norwood) for 31050 in the dec to rem scheme. msrp is 35709. i was initially miffed with the customer service at these guys and almost took my biz to another dealer. finally, they offered me a good price and we agreed. good service the second time around.
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huh? by plastix
Jan 15, 2005 (2:07 pm)
Out of curiosity, why does everyone on this thread compare their pricing (either quotes or actual price paid) to MSRP? Then you all seem to rationalize the purchase as a percentage of MSRP (where the ballpark figure is around 88-91% for this car). Is that some sort of Lexus phenomenon? It seems like every other discussion I've ever heard about new car pricing (at least from the buyer's perspective) originates from the invoice price (or even more specifically from the dealer price). MSRP is a totally arbitrary figure (albeit set by the factory), while invoice (or dealer price) are actual monetary values. Maybe it's just an issue of perspective, but why not work UP from the lowest price, as opposed to working down from a higher one?
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Re: huh? [plastix] by atoews
Jan 18, 2005 (2:53 pm)

Replying to: plastix (Jan 15, 2005 2:07 pm)

We've had discussions on using MSRP versus invoice and we agreed that invoice would be better to use for comparison. The problem is that invoice is more difficult to obtain. You have to add the invoice price of all the options to get the total invoice. During several periods of time, many folks were posting their deals as percentage of MSRP and this seemed to be very helpful to others looking for the definition of a reasonable deal.
 
Even if MSRP is a shaky number, it is a CONSISTENT number, which is what is important when doing price comparisons among vehicles with varying options and from various geographical regions.
   
 
During any time period, it is amazing how close the deals are to one another, usually varying by no more than a percentage point or two from MSRP.
 
If a potential buyer sees 10 posters getting 90% MSRP, this buyer is going to press a dealer for a better price than 100% MSRP.
 
So, the answer to your question is if you want to get lots of folks to post their deals such that it is easy to do and such that the readers can get lots of info for comparision, using MSRP seemed to be a good way to do it.
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Extended Warranty Worth It? by 1sttimelexus
Jan 19, 2005 (9:59 pm)
I am about to place an order for an '05 ES330; have been driving a Volvo 740 for 10+yrs, so I tend to drive cars forever & enjoy no payments. I'm pondering whether to get an X'ed Wty. Is it worth the extra $1000-1200 or so to get the 6yr/70k, or maybe the $1400-1700 for the 7/100k? What are your experiences w/ out of warranty repairs? I suspect that I'll drive this for at least 4-5years 15-20K miles/yr before checking out the new technology in whatever is available then. Thoughts?
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Repost of lexusct's deal - without reference to sales person. by atoews
Jan 30, 2005 (8:17 am)

I am reposting lexuscts deal minus the reference to the salesperson dealt with. Referring to a specific sales person is against Edmund's policy and the Edmund's host will delete lexuscts message 786 if he/she sees the dealer reference. I'd prefer not to lose lexusct's data.
 
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Negotiated a 3yr lease on a 2005 ES 330 with Navi and all options.
  
3 yr / 15,000 miles
MSRP $38,469
Cap Cost $34,800
Money Factor 0.0014
Residual % / $: 54%/$20,773
Monthly Payment: $489 includes all taxes, fees, etc
  
"0" down payment and $1700 due at signing for 1st month and all other leasing related fees.
  
Very happy with this deal from Lexus of Westport in Connecticut. I did it all via fax and then went in to do the paper work.
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Price in Northern California by buff8156
Feb 06, 2005 (11:02 pm)
Bought at Putnam Lexus. Redwood City, CA.
 
Wanted a Tier 3 ES330 2005 car - with ML Audio and Nav, and Auto. List is $39,089. Purchased with 2 minutes of discussion at $35,100. 89.8% of MSRP. About $400 over invoice - from what I could tell. The key to this is to get prices from internet managers from the 4 other South Bay/East bay dealers over the phone. I was very knowledgeable - giving him names and prices from other dealerships. I bet I could have gotten a better deal by a few hundred dollars - but I did not have the patience to hang around and argue with sales managers.
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Re: finally i have it [carbeku] by beardie
Feb 08, 2005 (10:58 am)

Replying to: carbeku (Jan 10, 2005 6:02 am)

Would you be good enough to let me know when(date) you got your ES330. I spoke to Norwood, and they deny that they would ever have sold a car at that price. I'm looking for a 36mo lease, but the selling price does affect that too.
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OK by jchan2
Feb 08, 2005 (3:56 pm)
I'm trying to decide between the I35 and the ES330, and I've driven the I35, and its not a bad car. But what's the difference between the I35 and the ES330?
 
And what's the average transaction price on an ES330? Is it closer to MSRP or invoice?
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Lexus ES330 in VA by bondey007
Feb 09, 2005 (1:31 pm)
Can anyone tell me the price for following ES330 in Virginia state,
 
Lexus ES330
VSC- Vehicle Skid Control
HH- Heated Ventilated Seats
HID
Wood & leather steering
6 CD Changer
 
Also can anyone tell me what & how useful is VSC?
 
thanks in advance,
Bondey

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