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What is this discussion about? Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan


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Re: oralmeddoc [oralmeddoc] by igiban
Nov 22, 2004 (12:30 pm)

Replying to: oralmeddoc (Nov 21, 2004 4:02 am)

Would AMT eat that deduction away, like it does to state tax deduction?
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Re: Higher prices - wonder why [atoews] by igiban
Nov 22, 2004 (12:39 pm)

Replying to: atoews (Nov 21, 2004 8:45 pm)

Maybe Lexus includes more options in a typical non-Nav ES now in addition to some minor std. feature changes? 2004 ES seemed to get the best prices indeed (among 02-05), although on a recent drive of a 04 ES330 loaner car I've found the hesitation (from flooring) more obvious than my 03 ES300.
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Re: oralmeddoc [igiban] by oralmeddoc
Nov 23, 2004 (9:29 am)

Replying to: igiban (Nov 22, 2004 12:30 pm)

Since it looks like the general sales tax deduction is an alternative to the state income tax deduction, my guess is that it would be eaten away by AMT...just like most everything else. Again, rules on this deduction should be forthcoming from IRS.
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Bay Area prices in Nov/Dec 2004 by wco81
Nov 27, 2004 (10:44 am)
My mother wanted a 2005 GS300 (even though I told her 2006 with new body and engine would be coming in April). I shopped some prices and Putnam Lexus said we had to come to get the Costco price which is the best price available.
 
The guy converted her to the 2005 ES, which has some niceties like twin memory seats and ventilated/heated seats.
 
So the Costco price was about $1200 over the claimed invoice for the model without the NAV (incidentally, most of them had a bunch of options which you have to add in at Edmunds to get true idea of the price). NAV and ML seemed to be the only options you could add along with the sport/comfort transmission thing. So a model without NAV was about $2600 below MSRP and the model with NAV was about $2700 below invoice.
 
He then invited us to give us a price over invoice that we'd be willing to pay. Then he showed us on Carsdirect that the "best" price was about $700 below what he was offering and asked if we would buy for that price. That put it just under $32000 for a model without NAV. Of course, he wouldn't give us anything written to take with us so I'm recalling all these numbers from memory.
 
My parents wanted to hold off, check another dealer and check the colors better (we went at dusk).
 
I noticed that a lot of the discussion in this thread revolves around percentage of MSRP. So what is a good rule of thumb for the percentage of MSRP we should shoot for in the Bay Area? Will that change if we add NAV? Does the total MSRP include all the fees? I don't want to see some fees slipped in at the end.
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Re: oralmeddoc [igiban] by kennyg5
Nov 27, 2004 (11:06 am)

Replying to: igiban (Nov 22, 2004 12:30 pm)

AMT is just ridiculous because it is not adjusted annually like exemption. So, you are right that AMT will nullify whatever state deductions exist. For the past 5 years, my otherwise allowable state tax deductions have been swallowed by AMT, which represents thousands of dollars of additional taxes. I heard Bush is trying to do something about this, but I doubt much will get done because of the looming national deficit.
 
As to the ES 330, I think I am more willing to give it another look even though I have been more interested in the TL. The ES suits more of my driving style, but TL's techno gadgets are way more cool, and I love its no-option pricing.
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Buy now or wait for 2006? by georgefs
Nov 28, 2004 (8:20 am)
I'm about to buy a 2005 ES330. December sale makes this attractive but I have read that the 06 model will be different. Does it pay to wait? Better deal now but lower resale because of new model? Does anyone know what's up with the 06 330? Thanks
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Re: Buy now or wait for 2006? [georgefs] by motownusa
Nov 28, 2004 (9:51 am)

Replying to: georgefs (Nov 28, 2004 8:20 am)

If you would rather wait, I think you might want to consider the 07 model when the car will be completely redesigned including an all new 3.5L engine that will pump out nearly 280 Hp. It will most likely be renamed the ES350. The new 05 Avalon is getting this powertrain and it will be out in March 2005.
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Good deal? by wco81
Nov 28, 2004 (11:51 am)
My folks got a black 2005 ES330, no NAV, for 34,000 out the door. Putnam Lexus in Redwood City, CA.
 
The sticker was 35,289, which includes HID, heated seats, sunscreen. In other words, the base option package which all of these cars seem to have.
 
By my calculations, that means the price before tax and license would be just around 90% of MSRP.
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Re: Good deal? [wco81] by igiban
Nov 28, 2004 (10:09 pm)

Replying to: wco81 (Nov 28, 2004 11:51 am)

Isn't $34K OTD about $31K b4 tax and license, in Bay Area? That's better than 90% right?
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Re: Buy now or wait for 2006? [georgefs] by maxhonda99
Nov 29, 2004 (7:58 am)

Replying to: georgefs (Nov 28, 2004 8:20 am)

The next redesign for the ES will be for the 2007 model year. If you guy by past history of the ES3XX, the 2006 model year will bring no changes for the ES3XX.

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