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| I thought this was a big sales event but was told by the Austin salesman it simply means 2K off MSRP. We looked at an es330 with msrp around 35,500 w/ everything except navigation, according to salesman. 2K off doesn't seem like a great deal, but it is a very nice ride. We also looked at the Mercedes c230 and bmw 235i, but my wife liked the es over the more powerful 235i and the weak c230, oh and a tiny volvo s40. Shouldn't I be able to get more off msrp? They seemed to have a lot of them. | |
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Replying to: fredvh (Dec 21, 2005 12:12 pm) Here is what I have observed however: 1. One pays a very high mpg price for accelerating. 2. One pays a very high mpg price for driving uphill. If one takes a two-way trip that is hilly, the lower mpg for the downhill part will not compensate for the higher mpg. of the uphill part. (A two-way trip theorectically equalizes the uphill/downhill portions there and back) 3. One pays a very high mpg price for stopping at fast food prices, which requires lots of acceleration/ stop and go. As such it is really hard to tell whether the basic vehicle is providing good or bad gas mileage. The only way that two drivers can get good comparison numbers is if they both live in a flat region, and they both have the same amount of stop and go when they drive in town.
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Replying to: atoews (Dec 22, 2005 5:26 pm)
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Replying to: x021627 (Dec 23, 2005 2:54 pm) |
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Today I drove from Bakersfield, Ca. to Ridgecrest, Ca. The trip is 101 miles. I tracked my gas mileage on the way home only (all freeway miles). I divided the trip in two. For the first half of the trip, I averaged 20.3 mpg, despite the fact that it was all on the freeway: no stop and go. There is a steep grade between Bakersfield and Tehachapi, which explains the low gas mileage. For the second half of the trip I averaged 29 mpg, because there were more downill miles on the second part of the trip. The mpg for the entire trip was 24.5 mpg, all on freeways. |
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I just have a quick question for anyone that may have a spare moment to respond.... I am thinking about buying a 06 ES330 and was wondering what the overall driving experiences people have had with this car....I have read some of the consumer reviews.....and most seem positive.....but my question would be as such... Does the car have enough power to let's say merge on the highway?...pass on the highway? (quickly when the need arises).....does it do well while driving in snow country? (i.e. midwest)...and just the overall ride.....is there any rattles in the interior?....allot of road noise?.....is it the true luxury experience? We don't need a sports car that can go from 0-60 in 4 seconds....and we don't really want a car that is marketed towards the retirement age people (please, no disrespect intended to anyone).....the ES330 is in our price range and seems like it may fit the bill....but by asking current owners we can get a feel of what everyones thinks......now we know in the end it is our decision....and it is either you like it or you don't....but any input would be much appreciated..... Thanks in advance...... |
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Replying to: mldj98 (Dec 30, 2005 3:17 am) Our experience was extremely positive. We found nothing of any concern and the overall driving experience was excellent for both city and highway conditions. the only thing we didn't use was the nav system so we cannot comment there.(didn't really need it) It rode well; handled well; was very quiet with no rattles or noticeable wind or road noise; accelleration was more than adequate; and it seemed not to notice the occasional time when there were 4 heavy duty adults aboard. It handled fine in the two really big snowfalls we've had so far this year; there seems to be more than adequate passing response on the highway; and we were pleasantly surprised at the very good fuel economy of this vehicle. Overall it was a very pleasant automobile to drive in--as good as any we've experienced. There was no doubt this is a luxury vehicle and we wouldn't hesitate to own one. One note of caution. Your inquiry will no doubt elicit a few negatives. One of those may talk to the hesitation issue which has been kicked around to a degree by some folks. There seems to be a concerted effort by a few outspoken individuals to have it declared a widespread epidemic, a serious safety hazard, severe when it occurs, affects many models of Lexus and Toyota, etc--generally a very damning criticism of this automaker. We would suggest caution in letting any such condemnations influence a purchase decision. Take one for a long test drive and decide for yourself. We didn't notice anything of the sort. In our opinion, the condemnations have been very much overplayed, and almost seem deliberate.
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Replying to: pilot130 (Dec 30, 2005 4:33 am) Thanks again!
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Replying to: mldj98 (Dec 30, 2005 8:40 am) It may not bother you, but then again it may. Make sure you can repeat the problem on a road test if possible, to make sure that you can accept the problem. Note that I am one of the owners who would purchase the car again anyway if I had it to do over, but some would not. |
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Lexus Dealer in San Francisco Bay Area (not the cheapest by any stretch) Lexus ES330 2006 w/Nav/ML Audio List 39,794 Purchase Price 34,133 85.8% MSRP they said it was $1K below their invoice |
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