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What is this discussion about? Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan


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Re: '06 ES 330 Black Diamond Edition [arg10] by gvr4wd
Dec 19, 2005 (11:18 am)

Replying to: arg10 (Dec 02, 2005 12:48 pm)

No, I was just quoted $32.5K after submitting from Lexus website.
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Re: '06 ES 330 Black Diamond Edition [gvr4wd] by motownusa
Dec 20, 2005 (10:37 am)

Replying to: gvr4wd (Dec 19, 2005 11:18 am)

That is exactly what my cousin paid for his ES. NO NAVI, MARK LEVINSON, VAS.
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Re: '06 ES 330 Black Diamond Edition [motownusa] by atoews
Dec 21, 2005 (8:49 am)

Replying to: motownusa (Dec 20, 2005 10:37 am)

You can kind of tell from the MSRP whether the vehicle has NAV/ML. Vehicles under about 35-36K MSRP generally do not include ML or NAV.
 
32K MSRP is a very basic vehicle.
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Re: New Deal Summary [jpdeg] by atoews
Dec 21, 2005 (9:07 am)

Replying to: jpdeg (Dec 19, 2005 6:50 am)

This indicates how dynamic the situaton can be.
If I needed a car in a hurry, at this point, I would look at this website and use the price quotes in it as a negotation tactic to give me confidence when I walk into a dealer.
 
If I tried several dealers or internet quotes and none were "biting" at my offer, I'd check out Edmund's TMV to see what a realistic price might be. (The difficulty with using TMV is that you have to enter ALL the vehicles options to get a number, and that can be difficult to do.)
 
Sorry if your negotiation tactic left you with less choice in vehicles. But it just shows that what worked yesterday or a month ago might not work today. In your case, you needed to move more quickly than posters have had to do in the past in order to maintain your choices. However, with Toyota, I have noticed that choices disappear fast.
 
And, maybe you will have the option of picking up a 2007.
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Re: New Deal Summary [jpdeg] by atoews
Dec 21, 2005 (9:19 am)

Replying to: jpdeg (Dec 19, 2005 6:50 am)

Another way to find out what the current situation for a particular vehicle is is to use Sam's Club car buying service.
 
When I first purchased my car, the Sam's Club rep told me that Toyota reduced production in 2001/2002 due to the September 11 attack. At the time I purchased my car (March 2002), ES 300s were going for 94-95% MSRP because there was a shortage, and the Sam's Club rep told me I was unlikely to have much luck getting a really low price.
 
The situation changed later, however, and until now, cars have been going for about 90% MSRP.
 
Now it looks like there may be a scarcity again, if one believes Edmund's TMV.
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Re: New Deal Summary [atoews] by fredvh
Dec 21, 2005 (12:12 pm)

Replying to: atoews (Dec 21, 2005 9:19 am)

Thanks for all the good info. Do you have any idea what the cut-off date is for the manufacture of 2006 ES330s?
     Bye the way, what kind of mpg are you getting on your 2002 ES300?
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December to remember by markeastland
Dec 21, 2005 (7:27 pm)
I thought this was a big sales event but was told by the Austin salesman it simply means 2K off MSRP. We looked at an es330 with msrp around 35,500 w/ everything except navigation, according to salesman. 2K off doesn't seem like a great deal, but it is a very nice ride. We also looked at the Mercedes c230 and bmw 235i, but my wife liked the es over the more powerful 235i and the weak c230, oh and a tiny volvo s40. Shouldn't I be able to get more off msrp? They seemed to have a lot of them.
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Re: New Deal Summary [fredvh] by atoews
Dec 22, 2005 (5:26 pm)

Replying to: fredvh (Dec 21, 2005 12:12 pm)

It is hard to really state the gas mileage I get. It varies from about 16-19 mpg in town and 26-28 mpg on the freeway.
 
Here is what I have observed however:
 
1. One pays a very high mpg price for accelerating.
2. One pays a very high mpg price for driving uphill. If one takes a two-way trip that is hilly, the lower mpg for the downhill part will not compensate for the higher mpg. of the uphill part. (A two-way trip theorectically equalizes the uphill/downhill portions there and back)
3. One pays a very high mpg price for stopping at fast food prices, which requires lots of acceleration/ stop and go.
 
As such it is really hard to tell whether the basic vehicle is providing good or bad gas mileage.
 
The only way that two drivers can get good comparison numbers is if they both live in a flat region, and they both have the same amount of stop and go when they drive in town.
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Re: New Deal Summary [atoews] by x021627
Dec 23, 2005 (2:54 pm)

Replying to: atoews (Dec 22, 2005 5:26 pm)

I couldn't have said it better regading mileage. I drive up a hill on the way to work and downhill on the way home. I notice the mpg drops precipitiously on the way up. Too fast starts cause the same thing. Doesn't go back up as quickly as it goes down. What I have noticed, however is that using 89 octane gas has made a significant difference.

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