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What is this discussion about? Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan


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Re: New Deal Summary [atoews] by jpdeg
Dec 18, 2005 (3:58 pm)

Replying to: atoews (Dec 17, 2005 11:19 am)

Hi, just saw your post and question marks, so I'll fill-in/update.
 
I received my quote on 12/3/06 from Lexus of New Orleans. Our salesman claimed he may have been able to knock off another couple hundred.
 
That d/ship is our only one. I emailed the dealership in Baton Rouge, 45 miles away. I had to email twice, and eventually had to call the internet manager to get a price. He said that I should check the local dealership. I said I did, would he like to give me a quote and take my business from them. He said he could do $1400 off of MSRP.
 
I told both salesmen that I would pay 90% of MSRP based on what I have been reading on Edmunds forums. One said that these price quotes aren't real, but are really "Christmas wishlist prices."
 
I still haven't made a purchase. Neither place would go lower, and I feel like the car is/may be underpowered, but the price just feels to high for me especially considering the much hyped December to Remember.
 
So, I'm still sort of looking. I can't decide. I'm considering a MB C230, BMW 325, or Saab 9-5. I really can't decide, and nothing has really grabbed my attention and desire, other than the Infiniti M35 (too expensive). I may just wait a while longer for the M.
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Re: New Deal Summary [jpdeg] by atoews
Dec 18, 2005 (6:34 pm)

Replying to: jpdeg (Dec 18, 2005 3:58 pm)

Your deal is lining up with Edmund's TMV (96% MSRP), which is not lining up with the quotes on this thread, sad to say. I appreciate your input, since I believe you have a realistic, honest deal. After all, Edmund's TMV is based on real sales data, as opposed to the data provided by posters.
 
Your salesman is correct in saying that the Edmund's quotes are not real. They are anonymous and can't be verified, but if the dealership is provided, at least there is some accountability.
 
Don't know why posters would exaggerate their deals, but the recent deal quotes are certainly not matching Edmund's TMV.
 
Perhaps when you get ready for a purchase, the price will come down or you will like the new body style better.
 
I suspect that the gas price rise has made ES330s more desirable when compared with RX300s than they have been in the past. Maybe there is a shortage of 2006 ES330s.
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Re: New Deal Summary [atoews] by jpdeg
Dec 19, 2005 (6:50 am)

Replying to: atoews (Dec 18, 2005 6:34 pm)

"Maybe there is a shortage of 2006 ES330s"
 
That is a distinct possibility. In fact, one of the salesman told me that they are selling them as fast as they can produce them. I just didn't necessarily believe him. Also, when I first started looking in November, the dealership lot was FULL of cars, mainly ES's. When I went back in the beginning of December, the lot was basically empty.
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Re: '06 ES 330 Black Diamond Edition [arg10] by gvr4wd
Dec 19, 2005 (11:18 am)

Replying to: arg10 (Dec 02, 2005 12:48 pm)

No, I was just quoted $32.5K after submitting from Lexus website.
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Re: '06 ES 330 Black Diamond Edition [gvr4wd] by motownusa
Dec 20, 2005 (10:37 am)

Replying to: gvr4wd (Dec 19, 2005 11:18 am)

That is exactly what my cousin paid for his ES. NO NAVI, MARK LEVINSON, VAS.
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Re: '06 ES 330 Black Diamond Edition [motownusa] by atoews
Dec 21, 2005 (8:49 am)

Replying to: motownusa (Dec 20, 2005 10:37 am)

You can kind of tell from the MSRP whether the vehicle has NAV/ML. Vehicles under about 35-36K MSRP generally do not include ML or NAV.
 
32K MSRP is a very basic vehicle.
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Re: New Deal Summary [jpdeg] by atoews
Dec 21, 2005 (9:07 am)

Replying to: jpdeg (Dec 19, 2005 6:50 am)

This indicates how dynamic the situaton can be.
If I needed a car in a hurry, at this point, I would look at this website and use the price quotes in it as a negotation tactic to give me confidence when I walk into a dealer.
 
If I tried several dealers or internet quotes and none were "biting" at my offer, I'd check out Edmund's TMV to see what a realistic price might be. (The difficulty with using TMV is that you have to enter ALL the vehicles options to get a number, and that can be difficult to do.)
 
Sorry if your negotiation tactic left you with less choice in vehicles. But it just shows that what worked yesterday or a month ago might not work today. In your case, you needed to move more quickly than posters have had to do in the past in order to maintain your choices. However, with Toyota, I have noticed that choices disappear fast.
 
And, maybe you will have the option of picking up a 2007.
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Re: New Deal Summary [jpdeg] by atoews
Dec 21, 2005 (9:19 am)

Replying to: jpdeg (Dec 19, 2005 6:50 am)

Another way to find out what the current situation for a particular vehicle is is to use Sam's Club car buying service.
 
When I first purchased my car, the Sam's Club rep told me that Toyota reduced production in 2001/2002 due to the September 11 attack. At the time I purchased my car (March 2002), ES 300s were going for 94-95% MSRP because there was a shortage, and the Sam's Club rep told me I was unlikely to have much luck getting a really low price.
 
The situation changed later, however, and until now, cars have been going for about 90% MSRP.
 
Now it looks like there may be a scarcity again, if one believes Edmund's TMV.
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Re: New Deal Summary [atoews] by fredvh
Dec 21, 2005 (12:12 pm)

Replying to: atoews (Dec 21, 2005 9:19 am)

Thanks for all the good info. Do you have any idea what the cut-off date is for the manufacture of 2006 ES330s?
     Bye the way, what kind of mpg are you getting on your 2002 ES300?

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