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| I am very new to this forum, I hope someone can help me about importing a car, I bought a used car in New Jersey, Do I need a title document under my name crossing the canada custom? I do have a title certificate but is under the first owner name..... I did asked US custom, they said is okee.... So what about crossing Canada custom? Can anyone help me? thanks | |
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Hi everybody, I have a few questions that I need to get confirmed, I think I got most of it right from reading all the posts in this forum were there is a lot of information. What I want to do is to import a Chrysler T&C limited 2005 from the US to BC, this car in Vancouver cost on an average 36K + tax that make it just pass 41K ! 1. I did check the car in the Transport Canada's List of Vehicles Admissible from the United States and it is ok. 2.I did check to get a recall clearance letter and that should be ok. 3.How about the bumpers regarding the 8km/h are they sertified the same way in the US or do they have to be changed. 4. the car is modern so daytime running light and child theeter is ok. 5. And then to the cost, I understand that there is no sale tax in any state as long as the car is not fully licensed in the state, temperary is ok. the question is how to get the temperary licenceplate?? 6.so then there will be the car price + the fee for the aircondition 100+ somthing and the fee for overweight the same 100+ , and the fee for riv 209$ and on the top of this the tax of 7+7 % ?? Does this mean that a car listed/sold for 26000$us would be mine to drve fully licensed in BC for approx 30K us(34100C$)??? If everything I have been checking is correct this should be right, or is there somthing important that I'm missing here???? this means a saving up to 5K minus the travel/transport. anybody that have an idea about how right or wrong I would be about this?? best regards Ove  
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hi.. I am wondering how to drive my new car from florida to ontario and how all the taxes work? Can i get a temp permit in florida? or do i need a florida licence? Do i need to give the border 72hrs? notice prior to my arrival? Also where and when do i pay the taxes? Can i put my ontario plates on and drive it home with in the 10days from purchase? any more info would be great. thanks.
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Replying to: jayp3 (Mar 17, 2006 6:39 pm) http://www.riv.ca/ It has all the straight FACTS you will need to bring the car into Ontario..................... |
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Replying to: jayp3 (Mar 17, 2006 6:39 pm) I don't think www.riv.ca answers all your questions - it certainly doesn't answer the US part of your questions. So I'll try to share my findings here but would love to hear from others if I'm wrong (and why). 1. Taxes: When you buy the car from a FL dealer, you won't have to pay state taxes. You only need to pay state taxes when you license the car in FL. (I'm not completely sure about this. Some states do allow you to defer the tax until licensing and others charge the taxes when the transaction is made at the dealer.) When you get to the Canadian border, you would pay GST and PST. (I'm not too sure about this either. Before, you would only pay GST at the border and would't pay PST until you licence your car in your province. But now CCRA has integrated GST and PST collection - I'm not sure if they bother to differentiate between cars and other goods.) 2. Operating Permits: You will need temporary operating permits for each state (incl. FL) you drive through. You can buy the permits ahead of time or buy at the first MOV offices of each state. 3. Title and Registration: My research shows that you have to title and register you new car in a US state before Canadian customs allow you to import, i.e. customs officers see the state title document as "proof of title". But after reading mlhoopr's and subahonda's posts, I'm starting to doubt myself. They seemed to imply that the dealer's sales receipts were sufficient for their cars to enter RIV/Canada. I haven't had a chance to verify this but plan to do so (at a RIV designated border office). You could do so and we can compare notes. If you still have to title and license the car in a US state, there could be three problems. First one is state tax - you might have to pay state tax which is not refundable. Second one is residency requirement - you have to show that you are registering the car in the right state, the state you have legal residency status - a job, school, etc. Some states don't have state tax - New Hampshire, Montana, Oregon, Alaska, Delaware. Some states don't have residency requirement. So far I've only found it's "true" for both of the above in Alaska. The third is time - in some states (such as Oregon) you need to wait for 45 days before the title document can be mailed to you. But if you don't have to title the car in FL, non of the above will a problem. So I'd recommend you check with the border about what "title document" really means first. 4.`Insurance: You should be able to buy insurance (called "binder" something) in Ontario before heading out to FL. But you probably won't be able to use your license place legally. Some state will even require you to show insurance coverage by a US/State insurer before they can title the car. So again, I'd check the title requirement first before determining insurance requirement. 5. Notice: The 72hr notice is what you have to give to the US customs - not the Canadian customs. This is for "exporting" the car from the US. I have no idea why this has to be done and what the consequences will be if this is not done. Canadian customs probably don't require anything from the US customs before they admit your car into Canada. So even if you do want to be clean with the US customs, why can't you just import the car, make sure all RIV requirements are taken are of and you won't have to "re-export" from Canada, before completing the "export" formalities with the US customs? Hope this helps. And please share your research results or importing experience back with us - I'm planning to import a Volvo later this year. Good luck!
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Replying to: tonytan1999 (Mar 19, 2006 12:49 am) Bought the Caddy from a Cadillac dealer in Alabama. Paid no sales tax. Had all the bill of sale documents. Drove the car with Alabama plates to Canadian customs. Paid GST and $100 air conditioning tax. Had to pay a small amount of duty based on the value of the car.Used the bill of sale to calculate this. They check the price against their own guide. If you try to bring in a $20,000 car and have documents that say you paid only $8,000, you are in for a pile of trouble...be honest and you find it pretty easy...we spent less than 30 minutes at the border. Registered the car in Ontario...paid the Ontario sales tax, had the safety certificate done, and put Ontario plates on it. When all was said and done, I think he saved about three grand over buying a similar car in Canada. But he was adamant that he wanted a car "with no salt on it!". Good luck in your efforts. Doug
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Replying to: dougb10 (Mar 19, 2006 5:08 am) Thanks so much for sharing the info. Just wondering if you could confirm/provide some more details for us: 1. Did you use a temp Alabama plate given to you by the dealer at the time of sale? Or did you get your own license plate from Alabama Department of Motor Vehicle? 2a. At the border, did you use the bill of sale as the "title document" which documents not only the ownership info but also any liens agaisnt it. I don't think the bill of sale can serve this purpose sufficiently. 2b. If you did title and register the car on your own, did you or your old man have any residency status in Alabama? What document did you have to produce in order to get the registration? 3. What temp operating permit and insurance did you use to travel from Alabama to Ontario? Or did you risk with insufficient coverage/licensing for the short period of time? 4. Did you notify the US customs and completed the US export formalities? 5. Did you buy the car in your own name or did your old man go with you? Was the car later registered in Ontario in your father's name? Was there a transfer from yourself to your father when you registered the car in Ontario? Besides the GST and other RIV fees, did you have to pay only the 7% PST, or both the 7% PST for registering the car first and the 7% social services tax for the ownership transfer? Thanks a lot for your help
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Replying to: tonytan1999 (Mar 19, 2006 9:03 pm) 1. We bought the car from the major Cadillac dealer in Birmingham...we phoned ahead and told them what we were looking for...they even offered to pick us up at the airport. The car we bought had Alabama plates on it. We left them on and didn't take them off until we screwed on the Ontario plates once we got back to Ontario. (the Alabama plates now adorn the inside of the outhouse at the cottage up North!) 2.The bill of sale from the dealership had all the necessary stuff saying who owned the car. 2b. We had no residency in Alabama....Dad just had his own residency and`license information. 3.Dad got some kind of letter from his own insurance company in Ontario showing the Cadillac was covered for the journey home from Alabama. 4.I don't recall anything being done at the U.S. customs. We told them we had bought the car in Alabama and were bringing into Canada where we lived. They just waved us on through to the Canadian side...this could be VERY different now though, so you had better check thoroughly. 5. The car was always in my Dad's name. We had to pay 7% GST at the Canadian border and 8% Provincial Sales tax when we got our license plates in Ontario. We did this deal in January...drove home through a huge snowstorm...a very long two day drive. The guys at the Cadillac dealership were concerned about us enough that they even phoned home to Dad's home in Ontario to see if we made it OK...pretty classy! They also had a great sense of humour....told us that his car "had never been driven up a hill or against the wind"! Do your homework before you go....a few phone calls to customs should clarify things and avoid hassles. Doug |
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Does anyone know the procedure for buying a new vehicle from Michigan and exporting it to Canada without paying the Michigan sales tax? I am interested in purchasing a new Acura or Honda but was told I would have to pay the Michigan sales tax unless the dealer delivered the car to the border? Does anyone have experience with this and can comment? Are there any differences between Michigan and New York with respect to state sales tax? Also, if the car is delivered by the dealer to the border, where will I get the temporary permit to drive the vehicle on the roads in Canada? Is this given to me at the border when I pay the Canadian taxes and appropriate registration fees? I am concerned if they deliver the vehicle that I will not receive the appropriate permit to drive the vehicle to my own ministry of transportation office to get my new license plates. Finally, while according to the Cdn government information there doesn't appear to be a problem in importing the MDX or Pilot, does anyone know any specifics about what modification would be required? Thanking you in advance for any advice, Paul |
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http://www.riv.ca.com/ has a list of the approved US vehicles that can be imported into Canada along with other info you need............... BTW: You shouldn't have to pay Mich. sales tax because you are not registering it there but in Canada..... |
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