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Smart Shopper Importing Car into Canada from US
4503 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 11:54 PM
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Hi Folks, I'm planning on bringing a Volvo from California into Canada. I have spoken to the current owner (lives in CA) who bought the car 2 months ago from a dealer in Colorado, but the first owners had the title in Wyoming. I've had her fax the title (Wyoming) to me (front and back), it shows the 1st owner has all liens released and shows that the car was sold to the dealer in Colorado. She also faxed me her bill of sale between the Colorado dealer to herself. However, she has not gotten the car titled in California (even though she has had the car 2 months and is driving it). My question to the forum is, do I need to have a title that has her name on it to bring the car into Canada? Second part of the question, is do I risk a lien being against the car if I don't have her title the car in her name? When I do a carfax, they still think it is a 1st owner car. Roland
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Replying to: rolls1 (Nov 09, 2009 3:14 pm) First of all, remember US customs has to declare the car ready for export. This means that they are going to verify that the car is NOT stolen and that there is nothing funny about it and that its legally being exported. Also, they are going to permanently mark the car as exported so they know its leave the country and no one in the US can make a claim for it. Thefore, if its not officially titled to that person, then there will be questions. You will risk a lien. Unless you know the history of the car with her name on the title, then you really don't have official proof if there is or not a lien on the car. She could owe thousands on the car or it could be held as collateral - you really don't know since there is no updated information. Call me paranoid and perhaps there are others on this forum that would shoot me down, but I would not take any chances with this. Get her to get the title on her name. You are buying the car from her and US and Canadian customs has to see that. Also you need to do the extra check (somehow) to make sure there is no lien on the car.... Someone with legal certifications or legal training could correct me on this...but I say take no chances... my 2 cents...good luck |
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Replying to: rolls1 (Nov 09, 2009 3:14 pm) Verify what you are doing is legal and correct. You do not want to get to the border and then be refused. http://www.riv.ca/USCustoms.aspx I'm sure there are also more experienced people on this forum that could chime-in. Also there are brokers on this forum too. So I'm sure if they are friendly enough, they will add some advice. Again, best of luck.
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Replying to: bav_fan07 (Nov 09, 2009 3:30 pm) As you suggested, I have contacted US Customs. (3 times in fact and was lucky enough to speak to the same guy each time). My understanding is that there are two ways that the paperwork would be okay: 1. Having the Wyoming Title showing the Dealer in CO is the owner + having an extension to the title showing the CA girl as being the owner + having Form 262 from California showing that CA girl sold the car to me. or 2. Having the CA title signed over to me. This approach may take some time (3-4 weeks) but may be the best approach as it also would show the lien information. I'm not opposed to working with a broker on this. I don't feel over my head yet, but it could get that way soon... Roland |
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im from alberta canada. am in the market for a new vehical. got my sights on the new 2010 honda crv. dont know much about importing cars from the us. have been following the subject somewhat. my understanding is i can import most vehicals that where manufactured after 2008 with no warranty worries i could also import the new 2010 honda crv, but the warranty would not be recognized in canada and would have to take the vehical back across the USA border for warranty work its my understanding that its the law in the USA for car manufactures to let consumers know the real cost of the (list price) vehical here in canada the vehical are sold as MSRP so how do i compare true vehical costs (apples to apples) from the USA to Canada. after having taking into account what im trying to say is how do i get the final cost on both sides of the border. the prices listed on edmunds or consumer report website is it a realistic cost . or are there other costs involved at the the dealerships in the USA ? understand here in canada there are the different costs at the dealership , depends on which province a person lives in. like HPST, GST, frieght, airconditioning tax, and dealership paper-work, also am i strong beleiver the the dealerships on both sides of the border should be able to make a honest living as well, but keep hearing shopping from the USA a Canadian can save them -selfs any wheres from $15000-$5000 so any feed back would be appreciated thanks |
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Replying to: mikewipf (Nov 03, 2009 12:55 am) |
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Replying to: mikewipf (Nov 03, 2009 12:55 am) If you are looking for a Subaru try Keene Subaru of New Hampshire as they are agressive about selling to Canadians, Also there is a Toyota dealer in Keene willing to sell to Canadians |
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anyone know of middlemen to protect buyer from ca. in a private deal in us? thanks in advance.
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Replying to: easter3 (Nov 27, 2009 5:04 pm) i started dealing with them somewhat, for the moment, just discussing general ideas im in the market for a new vehical for myself, just shopping around at the moment and doing some foot-work. guess u could say im self educating in the process of buying a vehical in a very shady enviroment. why does it have to be so difficult. THIS IS WHAT IT COST TO MANUFACTOR THE VEHICAL. ADD DELIVERY CHARGE+ SOME PROFIT FOR THE DEALER AND WHALLA. DONE DEAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH |
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| will check it out .thanks alot. | |
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