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US Title Problem
by thebavarian
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Dec 05, 2005 (4:42 pm)
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I bought a used vehicle in the US ( PA ) but I cannot import it until the title comes back from the state with my name on it and that takes 4-6 weeks Can anyone tell me if there is a workaround for this problem and if this is what happens with every state in the us. What if I have a canadian dealer buy car for me from the us and import it with the dealer plates on it
I had serious problems on the canadian border with the above mentioned vehicle because I did not have the title and wanted to drive it in canada until the title comes and I can import it. I also had to pay good fine to get it back because they seized it. Now I am in their system and every time I cross the border I attract attention. I am planning on disputing the seizure so If anyone knows something about seizures or can provide me with a link I would be very thankful.
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- #40 of 4505
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More questions about importing a new car
by tonytan1999
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Dec 22, 2005 (1:44 am)
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I have been planning to buy a new Volvo in a state-sales-tax-free state near BC (Alaska, Oregon, or Montana) and import it to Canada, but am finding the following issues unclear:
1. Title
Most states, if not all, requires residency (i.e. qualification for a local driver's license) before they'll title/register a new car. Does anyone have experience getting a new car titled in AK or OR without proof of residency? And even if you got title without showing proof of residency, how long did you have to wait for it (i.e. leave the car in the states)?
2. Recall Clearance Letter
The safest way appears to be: call the dealer, get the VIN and hold the car, call the manufacturer, ask for the letter, wait for the letter to arrive, then pay for the car. Does anyone have the experience of getting a letter from Volvo USA?
Other issues seem to be solvable for now. I'll be glad to share any research findings with anyone interested.
Thanks.
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Re: More questions about importing a new car [tonytan1999]
by rikat007
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Dec 23, 2005 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: tonytan1999 (Dec 22, 2005 1:44 am)
Hi I'd like to get any info on requirements/process & cost of importing a new BMW into Canada. Thanks
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Re: More questions about importing a new car [tonytan1999]
by bryanreo
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Dec 26, 2005 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: tonytan1999 (Dec 22, 2005 1:44 am)
Am also interested in purchasing a new car in the US and importing to Canada. A 2005 BMW X3 is about $9,000 less in the US after accounting for currently differences but I imagine there will be big duties to pay. Did you find out anything in your research?
Thanks for you time.
Bryan REO
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- #43 of 4505
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Re: More questions about importing a new car [bryanreo]
by tonytan1999
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Dec 27, 2005 (12:11 am)
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Replying to: bryanreo (Dec 26, 2005 8:57 pm)
Revenue Canada (or whatever the current name is) lists on its website a 6% import rate for cars made in countries without special treaties. I don't think EU has any special treaties with Canada as far as car importing is concerned. I'm not aware of any other taxes.
That duty does eat into your potential savings (of $9000 less travel expenses, additional insurance, title fees, licensing fees, RIV fees, inspection fees, modification costs, GST, PST or HST, etc.).
It appears that the 6% duty (and probably the 7% GST too) will be calculated based on the Canadian blue book value rather than your true cost. But still, we can probably save a good $6000 to $7000 after tax by going to the states for a few days of vacation. Right? Just have to make sure the whole process is at all possible.
(Again, as I said in my first email, getting title document and recall clearance seems to be the biggest issue, unless you can already live in the states.)
Good luck, and lets share any further findings...
PS:
you might want to check this page for some real life experience of importing an USED car: http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/Import.html#Sec9
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YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO CALL
by geo9
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Dec 27, 2005 (8:17 pm)
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- #45 of 4505
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YOU GUYS MIGHT WANT TO CALL
by geo9
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Dec 27, 2005 (8:22 pm)
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The car mfr. direct and ask if the warranty will still
be honored on cars bought in the US then reregistered
in Canada (or visa versa).
I have read quite a few auto makers doing this on these
forums......................
I live along the US/Canadian border and have seen this
happen several times with Canadian cars imported into
the US..............
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Re: Mfg Recall clearance letter [henry01]
by nondalover
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Jan 16, 2006 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: henry01 (Nov 19, 2005 12:27 pm)
Hi henry01,
I have a same problem with damn the clearance letter from American Honda.They just refused with no reason...
Can you or anybody who nows,please write me how to download the info with the VIN number from honda site.
Would very appreciate you halp ,folks !!!!
Please email me: adpmail mail.ru
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Re: Mfg Recall clearance letter [nondalover]
by subahonda
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Jan 23, 2006 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: nondalover (Jan 16, 2006 5:15 pm)
If you are buying from an authorized dealer, the manager of the dealership can write the letter. Look at the instructions at the RIV site. Simply downloading stuff does not meet the requirement. The US DOT has a list of recalls. You should call the manufacturer again and ask for the letter - someone else should answer the phone. You are entitled to such a letter as a customer - but you have to own the car and have title.
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Re: More questions about importing a new car [tonytan1999]
by subahonda
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Jan 23, 2006 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: tonytan1999 (Dec 22, 2005 1:44 am)
There are a lot of errors on some of the posts. The state sales tax is not collected on a car that is being exported unless you are plating it in that state. You cannot be a resident of the state because residents have to pay the sales tax. So a Canadian can buy the car and take it out. Some dealer associations have deals with their counterparts in Canada to prevent the sales but they are legal by NAFTA. I just went through this. I also got the full rebate as advertised. The title goes with the car and will be signed over to you by the dealer and you will be given a transport certificate. The recall clearance letter is required at the inspection when you complete form 2 at Canadian Tire. The RIV web site has all the steps and they are correct. The US export clearance requires that a copy of the MCO (which is the title or manufacturers certificate) be faxed to the US border office where you will enter Canada "at least72 hours" ahead. This is incorrect. They want three full business days. They don't count weekends or holidays. So count three days after they receive the fax (and call to confirm that they received it). You then have the US Customs officer stamp the title upon presentation of the vehicle. You drive across the border with the title and bill of sale. Look at the certificate of compliance label on the car for its date of manufacture because that will be required for Form 1 on the Canadian side, as well you must pay the GST and Air Tax. It states the site of manufacture as well. The matter of duty is not clear. Expect to pay it and be happy if you don't - include it in your calculations. The RIV fee is $209 and you have to pay whatever provincial inspection fee and sales taxes are required in your province when you get to the provincial licencing office. Remember that the Customs people are not your enemy. They are making sure that everything is in order. The biggest problem is the US clearance - people think they can just show up. The manufacturer will only give the letter after you have the title showing that you own the vehicle in question. They will not do it ahead of the purchase and it is not needed at the border. The US dealer required a US taxpayer identification number (Social Security), which you can get if you don't have one. There are also Patriot Act requirements of disclosure of the owner's past record. Everything is okay if you do the things as required. Check with the manufacturer on both sides about the warranty.
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