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Transport Canada to Change Auto Import Rules! by rnewburg
Dec 15, 2007 (5:35 am)
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All should read "Canada Gazette Part 1 December 1, 2007" T/C has put the wheels in motion to change the import rules with regard to "vehicle Immobilizers" They have really done a "fast track" on this one, posting the changes sought on Dec. 1st with only a 15 day comment period with a promise to impliment the amenment almost right away. Some one there is listening and dong the right thing - DEMOCRACY AT WORK!!! An approved immobilizer can be installed for $400.00.
  
 
To: 'davisdatc.gc.ca'
 
Subject: Canada Gazette Part I December 1, 2007
 
Daniel B. T. Davis
 
Chief
 
Regulations and Standards
 
Road Safety and Motor Vehicle Regulation Directorate
 
Transport Canada
 
330 Sparks Street, 8th Floor, Tower C
 
Ottawa, Ontario
 
K1A 0N5
 
Telephone: 613-998-1956
 
Fax: 613-990-2913
 
Email: Davisdatc.gc.ca
 
  
 
I wish to submit my comments on the following highlighted section of the proposed amendment. THIS IS LIKE PUTTING THE FOX IN CHARGE OF THE CHICKEN COOP!!!!
 
  
 
THE PROVINCES LICENSE AUTO MECHANICS FOR GOOD REASON AND IF SAID MECHANIC CERTIFIES THAT HE HAS SATISFACTORILY INSTALLED AN APPROVED IMMOBILIZER SYTEMS, APPROVED to National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98, THAT IS ALL THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED.
 
  
 
Regardless of what the manufacturer says, the world will figure out how to meet the requirements of the CAN/ULC-S338-98 standard, IF YOU WILL ALLOW THEM TO!
 
  
 
The alternative is to let the corporations control the world - - no fair!
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems:
 
Electronic Immobilization (May 1998), published by the
 
Underwriters’ Laboratories of Canada CONFORMING
 
(4.1) For the purposes of subsection 7(2) of the Act, a vehicle
 
that has been sold at the retail level in the United States and that
 
has not been certified by the manufacturer as conforming to subsection
 
114(4) of Schedule IV to these Regulations may be imported
 
into Canada despite not being certified to conform to subsection
 
114(4) if
 
(a) the vehicle was fitted at the time of manufacture with an
 
electronic immobilization system; or
 
(b) unless the manufacturer has indicated in writing that the
 
vehicle cannot be fitted with an immobilization system, the
 
person importing the vehicle states in their declaration that the
 
vehicle
 
(i) will be fitted with an immobilization system that conforms
 
to National Standard of Canada CAN/ULC-S338-98,
 
entitled Automobile Theft Deterrent Equipment and Systems:
 
Electronic Immobilization (May 1998), published by the
 
Underwriters’ Laboratories of Canada, before it is presented
 
for registration under the laws of a province, and
 
(ii) will be taken, within 45 days after its importation, to an inspection
 
station authorized by the registrar of imported vehicles
 
to carry out an inspection function to determine that the
 
vehicle has been made to conform to the standard.
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Re: Transport Canada to Change Auto Import Rules! [rnewburg] by gaut
Dec 15, 2007 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: rnewburg (Dec 15, 2007 5:35 am)

The text is very long and starts on page 3366, near the bottom.
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Re: Plates when crossing the border. [manitoumike] by sergelbergeron
Dec 15, 2007 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: manitoumike (Dec 14, 2007 3:28 pm)

Here's what I did - in mid October. I had a Pennsylvania Temp. plate ( it a cardboard plate) that was in the back only - good for 30 days - it cost $70. I had to leave my car in the US for a few weeks because of the RIV fiasco, but I did cross around day-25 into Canada with those plates on. There was no problem whatsoever and the border guard also told me that Police are very tolerant with car importers. I must tell you that I was not able to get my plates within the 30 days, but I did drive around with the temporary plate expired and with all the paperwork ( form 1, invoice etc) in my car. Of course, I was driving very carefully and it is not the time to be speeding on the roads. I personally think that if you have no plates you will be attracting attention and will get stopped. At the border, the guard at the gate said OK what kind of plates are those my friend and I said yes I am declaring that I am importing this car.
PS. I am driving my new Prius 2008, net savings $8,100 - total cost on the road $31,200 - # 5 package. Guys it is worth it - let's keep up the fight.
www.carswithoutborders.com
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Re: Plates when crossing the border. [sergelbergeron] by rogart
Dec 15, 2007 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: sergelbergeron (Dec 15, 2007 1:00 pm)

Was your 2008 Prius built after September 1st?
Does it have an IMMOBILIZER that meets Canadian standards ? Did Toyota issue the recall letter stating that it meets the standards ?
 
I'm the owner of a 2006 Prius and may be looking at a newer Prius in a few months .
Thanks
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Re: License in U.S. for a Year? [crikey] by gtxkarl1
Dec 15, 2007 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: crikey (Dec 13, 2007 1:32 pm)

I don't know what to tell you except that it works. I had my fl licence for 7 yrs. I just got a new one last month because mine was expiring soon. Still have my Qc licence. Maybe You have to say that you're visitng for a while instead of moving down.
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Re: License in U.S. for a Year? [gtxkarl1] by bodble2
Dec 16, 2007 (12:43 am)
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Replying to: gtxkarl1 (Dec 15, 2007 5:05 pm)

Yeah, but would they think, if you're just visiting for a short time, why would you need Fl licence?
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Re: Here's my import story [sc00p] by spatz9999
Dec 16, 2007 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: sc00p (Dec 12, 2007 3:02 pm)

Some quick comments based on my experience
 
Many of the manufacturers are providing BS as information to try and discourage your from importing their cars. Don't trust the manufacturer, call RIV if you have any questions.
 
I imported a luxury car and was told by the manufacturer that I would have to pay $2K for the recall certificate and that I would require another $10K in modifications at the dealership before they would issue it. (I have checked the boards and others have been told the same). I called RIV to complain and they told me that in many cases they are now allowing cars to be imported with a letter from the dealership instead of the manufacturer since so many people are complaining of being ripped of.
 
The $10K in modifications were not necessary and the car could be brought into compliance for a few hundred bucks. Common lies are that you have to replace the instrumentation panel to get a panel in KM (not true since the panel only has to show KM and can be either digital or analog) and that the manufacturer has to replace the headlight module (not true since a $29 kit from Canadian Tire is permitted).
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Re: Importing Car into Canada from US [jasonng] by regstevens
Dec 16, 2007 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: jasonng (Sep 06, 2003 6:06 pm)

Duties depend on whether or not your car is made in a NAFTA region or not, the best free info on this and how to calculate your car import fees is at Car Import Fees and How to Avoid them
 
Also, typically the RIV fee is approx $210, you wil have to pay GST as you would on any other car purchase in Canada
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Re: Plates when crossing the border. [rogart] by sergelbergeron
Dec 16, 2007 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: rogart (Dec 15, 2007 3:56 pm)

The 2008 Prius is an August built - and yes it does have an immobilizer - but the 2008's built in Sept are still inadmissable as of now - next week I'm not sure. The recall letter was a report that I got from the US dealer - that was accepted by the RIV back in October - today I haven't kept up with all the ridiculous changes that are going on at the RIV - but back then it was a simple computer printout - that was no charge. And we are very proud of our 2 Priuses - one 2005 and the 2008. I don't see how the immobilizer can be different with the 2007 model or 2008 model built for the US or Canada.
 
Good Luck with your purchase - it is really worth the small effort to shop in the US and it will be bringing down the Canadian prices eventually.
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Re: Plates when crossing the border. [sergelbergeron] by rogart
Dec 16, 2007 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: sergelbergeron (Dec 16, 2007 4:17 pm)

I also have 2 ... but the new rules applying to "after Sept. 1st 2007" still indicate that the
Prius is now inadmissible .
 
But the interesting information is contained in the cut and paste I took from the Can. Transportation site .
 
It appears that Hybrid vehicles are an after though in the process . Apart from the terrible grammar the paragraph below says a volume about how the process has been
politicised by the public (?) servants at Transport Canada .
 
"With regards to the other vehicles put forth for exemption, the
Department's position remains that the benefits of requiring the
installation of immobilization systems for them outweigh any potential
drawbacks. No convincing arguments were offered for exempting electric,
hybrid electric and fleet vehicles, especially given that the risk of doing
so could result in making those vehicles a more attractive target of vehicle
theft. "
 
So I have to wonder who is "driving" who when it comes to the inadmissible list ?

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