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Re: keep up the pressure [mccreeper] by rivsucks
Nov 22, 2007 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: mccreeper (Nov 22, 2007 9:04 am)

McCreeper, the name is fitting,
 
I agree, I would be happy to spend an extra $4,000-$5,000 and by a car in Canada. The reality is I'm not retarded and will not spend an extra >$10,000 just to line the pockets of a wealthy Canadian car dealer. Get a grip loser. My wife and I both earn over $100k and could easily afford to by a new car here but we're not stupid. The money I save on buying a car in the US can go towards my sons education, although that's not necessary as we max out his RESP each year. No, maybe we'll just take a nice vacation to Florida or California with the money we save. Get a grip on things pal.
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Re: keep up the pressure [mccreeper] by silver_fox
Nov 22, 2007 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: mccreeper (Nov 22, 2007 9:04 am)

"keep up the pressure people. once again i will revert to the stat of how man cars are on track to enter canada this year by importation. under 150,000. most of that are from dealers and brokers."
 
There were 25,000 imports in Oct..... double that of Oct. 06. Thats 25,000 people that apparently don't have the infinate wisdom you have.
 
"so for a little short term gain you are screwing us with long term pain"
 
Nope, it's people like yourself that use the Canadian socialist system to the point of abuse that screw us all.
 
"as all of you dont have the cash saved up to go risk it in the states. 98 percent of you will use borrowed money and call it cash"
 
Ahhh! Finally, I see where you are coming from............ you are jealous of those who choose to work harder / smarter than you to get ahead. And by the way, some of us do have the cash to pay for a new luxury vehicle. Don't worry, I am sure the decrease in value for Canadian market cars won't affect your prize Plymouth K-Car.
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importing autos by eieio2
Nov 22, 2007 (2:12 pm)
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My humble opinion is that we are giving Mr. McCreeper way to much attention ... I look forward to more valued and helpful information with respect to importing vehicles
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Re: Rav4 / Highlander [mottie] by rodm1
Nov 22, 2007 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: mottie (Nov 12, 2007 4:53 pm)

I'm having a little problem understanding the amount of "misinformation" on this subject! My question to RIV would be "Since when do you (RIV) or Toyota get to determine what is admissable or not?"
I would ask this because the Transport Canada website identifies that " as part of the RIV inspection the IMPORTER will be required to supply documentation to prove that the vehicle came with a factory installed system that complies with CMVSS 114 OR that a recognized aftermarket system that meets the intent of CMVSS 114, has been installed."
CMVSS 114 was introduced in 2005 to comply with the National Standard of Canada ULC S338/98. Go to the ICBC web site and you will see that there are four (4) after market systems that they (IBC) recognize as meeting the standard.
RIV simply CANNOT be told by Toyota how to interperate Transport Canada Regulations. If Toyota won't provide you with a letter of compliance then get your importer to write one based on it being on your equipment list/invoice or get one of the 4 approved aftermarket devises installed with a letter from the installer stating same.
Regards
Rod M1
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Re: Rav4 / Highlander [rodm1] by hammatime
Nov 22, 2007 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: rodm1 (Nov 22, 2007 2:13 pm)

Your point is valid with every VAFUS list I've seen EXCEPT the current one which was updated yesterday (Nov. 21) - see the enhanced "Explanations".
 
That being said, everyone who has imported or tried to import their vehicles using the rules in place at the time of purchase MUST bang their MPs over the head with it until they get it and they communicate same in no uncertain terms to Cannon.
 
I've now demanded a face-to-face meeting with my MP.
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Re: Rav4 / Highlander [hammatime] by wrajinder
Nov 22, 2007 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: hammatime (Nov 22, 2007 2:27 pm)

It is so clear in EXPLANATIONS section that which vehicle need letter and which doesn't. I think thay have just updated this today . The language on RIV website is
 
"ADMISSIBLE VEHICLES:
 
A vehicle manufactured after September 1, 2007 (may be a 2007 or a 2008 model) is ADMISSIBLE if:
 
1) The vehicle is listed in the "ADMISSIBLE" column of the List of Vehicles Admissible from the United States. This means that it
is manufacturer-equipped (standard) with an electronic immobilization system that meets the requirements of CMVSS 114.
 
2) The vehicle is listed in the "ADMISSIBLE" column of the List of Vehicles Admissible from the United States but is followed
by "~" and/or "(see notes)". This means that the vehicle does not come standard with an electronic immobilization system that
meets the requirements of CMVSS 114, but either:
 
a. An electronic immobilization system that meets the requirements of CMVSS 114 is available as a manufacturer option. In this
case, it must be factory-installed; it is NOT possible to install the system after market, because the manufacturer will not be
able to ensure that it complies with CMVSS 114.
When an electronic immobilization system that meets the requirements of CMVSS 114 is available as a manufacturer option,
the importer must provide a letter from the manufacturer stating that the vehicle meets the CMVSS 114.

 
Moral of the story:
 If you do have "see notes" section you need letter. & if you don't have "see notes" section. YOU JUST DO NOT NEED LETTER. call RIV yourself.
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Form 2 by northernkiwi
Nov 22, 2007 (3:03 pm)
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I spoke to RIV today about the status of the release of form 2. My vehicle is a 2008 Prius built Aug 07, crossing the border Sept 16. RIV had recorded it as having been built Oct 2007 (due to the CBSA officer not filling in the correct data on form 1) they did not recognize the impossibility that an Oct build could cross the border in Sept. I sent them evidence that it was Aug 07 and was subsequently told I would have my form 2 within 48 hours.
 
Anyway I was informed , in passing, that they were in the process of issuing over 3,000 form 2's and that I should be patient and expect it sometime in the next few days. In my opinion, if it takes them 2 minutes to review the file and issue the form 2 it looks as though they will process 30 forms per man-hour so we are looking at 100 man hours to clear this little backlog - if true. That's about 15 days work for 1 person. I hope they feel they can provide the resources to enable more than one person to process these forms. If they take 4 minutes per file you can double the time frame.
 
It is going to be interesting to see what the time frames are - or if the story is just a line.
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Transport Canada, Immobilizers and Fairy Tales by beaurocratsuck
Nov 22, 2007 (3:16 pm)
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"In the nine years that the Insurance Bureau of Canada (IBC) has been tracking such thefts, no vehicle in Canada with an immobilizer meeting the national standard has been stolen due to the defeat of an immobilizer."
 
Above is a quote from the Mastergard site. So in 9 years of using an FMVSS compliant immobilizer there has never been theft due to the defeat of an immobilizer.
 
And now we need a unique CMVSS standard. I think I need a drink
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Re: New news for RAV _ VAFUS list revised again [wrajinder] by rutilus
Nov 22, 2007 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: wrajinder (Nov 22, 2007 10:42 am)

I visited the RIV website this morning and saw a revised list showing the Toyota "2007 AND 2008 RAV4 LTD built after September 1st, 2007"
were in the acceptable column but this evening the revised list is longer there.
 
Try as I might I cannot find the RAV4 acceptance.
 
Please help!!!
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Re: New news for RAV _ VAFUS list revised again [rutilus] by wrajinder
Nov 22, 2007 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: rutilus (Nov 22, 2007 3:17 pm)

What are you talking about? . List is still there and RAV 4 ltd is ok asper the list. Check website again. May be something wrong with your cookies or so

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