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The Comments which the Globe had included the following: “P Stevens from Toronto, Canada writes: Seems like many here are torn. No one wants to pay more for any product...a few dollars perhaps, but 30 or 40% more NOT A CHANCE. I don't care who you are. Some of the posts here are nationalistic, the -buy-at-home-to-save-jobs types when in fact many of the vehicles you pay that 30-40% premium are made in the USA or offshore. A perfect example is the Toyota Matrix made in Cambridge Ontario...same car here not only costs more for Delivery (660 in USA vs 1200 in Canada) BUT also costs almost 30% more....yet its built right next door to us!!?!?! The balance are those are jealouse of those that have the means to save a buck, made the trip to the USA after doins some research and now are suffering over a standard that is frivilous and does nothing to improve safety, no matter what some of the posters beleive. Think about it if I can't get your car started maybe I break into your house and hurt you for the keys, OR I carjack you, a false sense of security is still a false sense of security. The idea of Standards is to standardize...why is this so illogicial...many cars sold already have immobilizers, why a special high tech one for Canada that is COSTLY when we have 10-20 million cars on the road WITHOUT an immobilizer, perhaps now the car thieves will steal more older vehicles, impacting the less well off. See no matter how you spin it someone loses with standards that aren't standardized in the world market...and I am not saying that we abandon all standards either, but geeze commons sense says that if I implement a special made in Canada policy it will directly impact future car buyers who want choice and who we already allow to import vehicles.... Basically the government morons that created this standard ensure we lose the right to import any vehicles produced after 2008!?!?!? Give it 10 years and no more vehicle imports from anywhere,perhaps the vehicle manufacturers didn't really push this as they could see the PROFIT on the wall too!! • Posted 20/11/07 at 9:37 AM EST” Buyers of barred cars can drive home, but no farther GREG KEENAN AND STEVEN CHASE November 20, 2007 http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071120.RCARS20/TPStory/?quer- y= Exerpts: “ - Buyers of new vehicles that lack the proper theft immobilization device may now import them, but must park these cars or trucks until Transport Canada finds a permanent solution to the regulatory snafu that prompted the ban. The reprieve may be temporary and the ban put back in place, Transport Canada spokesman Patrick Charette said Monday, but for now Mr. Hill, Mr. Perry and others are allowed to bring their vehicles home. - “But that doesn't solve the issue,” Mr. Charette cautioned. “If their vehicle is not admissible, they will not be able to plate their vehicle and it's not a guarantee that their vehicle will be allowed permanent importation and licensing in Canada.” - Ottawa banned vehicles sold by several manufacturers in the United States because they didn't have theft devices that met a new standard established by Transport Canada for vehicles manufactured after Sept. 1. The ban was rescinded after the Canadian Border Services Agency raised the problem of cars being denied entry to Canada, Mr. Charette said. = Blocking U.S. vehicles because of the theft immobilization devices “is discriminatory to Canadians as it is allowing automobile manufacturers to maintain their high pricing structure for new cars in Canada,” said Mr. Hill, a Calgary financial consultant who bought a 2008 Sienna last month. “This is either collusion or unintended consequences.” - Several auto makers have pointed out that they actually opposed the change in the regulation on theft immobilizers, that discussion of the change first started more than four years ago and that the timing of the new regulation accidentally coincided with the rise in the Canadian dollar. - The list of banned vehicles was broadened last week to include 2008 models manufactured after Sept. 1 and sold in the United States by Ford Motor Co. [F-N], Hyundai Motor Co. and Suzuki Motor Co. Ltd. All 2008 General Motors Corp. [GM-N] models, several Honda Motor Co. Ltd. vehicles and about half of the Toyota Motor Corp. [TM-N] lineup are also affected.” I hope the foregoing has been of help in understanding why Canadians have to pay more when they attempt to purchase a car in Canada.
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Hi, For the benefit of the RAV / Highlander group, and other Toyota / Lexus / Scion buyers for that matter, can I suggest again that someone try looking at the technical info site for Toyota? Given that we know some models have a CMVSS compliant immobilizer, it should be possible to compare part numbers and determine if the part is the same across other "non-compliant" models or not. Here's the link: link title Anyone can use the system -- you don't need to be an employee of Toyota. The cost is as follows: Day - $10 US Month - $50 US Year - $350 US Good luck! And if someone is successful in researching this, please share for the benefit of the group and Robert Lamb's "Cars without Borders" organization. |
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Replying to: maluna (Nov 21, 2007 7:57 pm) 2. When leaving the US, you check-in with US export control. They give you the title and check to make sure it matches the car's VIN. 3. You go to Canada Customs and declare that you are importing the vehicle. You go inside, pay your GST, duty and A/C tax, etc. They prepare FORM 1, which is then faxed to RIV. 4. RIV will e-mail, mail or allow you to pick-up FORM 2. To get it e-mailed, you need to call them with your case # (listed on top of FORM 2). 5. With FORM 2 in hand, you get the vehicle inspected at Canadian Tire. They either approve and stamp FORM 2, or let you know what modifications need to be done. If modifications are required, you have to get them done and have the vehicle re-inspected. If the modifications are acceptable, FORM 2 gets stamped and faxed to RIV. 6. With the stamped FORM 2, you go to the Provinical Ministry of Transportation office and get your plate and provincial registration. 7. RIV sends you a sticker to put on the car indicating that it has been imported and all is good. 8. Laugh about how much you have saved... |
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Replying to: mccreeper (Nov 22, 2007 9:25 am) Price in US: 26100. That is LE + power doors + alloy wheels + mudguards + convinience package. That was a price I got witout negotiating with a dealer. That is price on the road. Dealer went throug all paperwork, but last minute got a call from Toyota US telling them that if they will sell it, then they'll loose licence. Price in Canada: 37000$. That is MSRP: 37225 + 1400(PDI) - 1000(Rebate)-625(dealer discount). 26100 + tax(13%) = 29754 37000+tax(13%) = 42180. Add 1000 expense to get car from US. Event negotite 1000 her less from the deler. Where is my misinformation?
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Replying to: freshtunes (Nov 21, 2007 11:31 pm) But when I ran the numbers I found, as freshtunes indicated, that the comparison was based on US MSRP vs. a Canadian very hard bargaining deal. The real cash price in the US would have been lower with some bargaining. If you suceeded in getting only $1,000 off the MSRP of $26,733 in the US, after excise tax, PST and GST the comparative price would have been $1,200 less so the savings would have been $3,200. If you could beat the US dealer down by $2,000, the savings would have been $4,400.
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Good news for RAV people. List just got updated in last few minutes It now says: 2007 AND 2008 RAV4 (sport and base models) built after September 1st, 2007 (see notes) 2007 AND 2008 RAV-4 Limited 2008 Highlander Sport 2008 Highlander HV 2008 4Runner 2008 Highlander Limited 2007 AND 2008 Highlander (base model) built after September 1st, 2007 (see notes) So no see notes section in front of RAV limted. I hope this does mean that RAv limited do not need letter too.
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Replying to: mccreeper (Nov 22, 2007 9:04 am) with all due respect... netdog |
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Replying to: jsmith1957 (Nov 22, 2007 9:45 am)
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I found something on RIV website regarding the Honda Recall Clearance Letter, go to www.riv.ca, click on recall clearance letter, then go to the bottom and click on consult the contact information list. Go to Honda contact info, and you will find the web info for the Honda owners link recall letter. If riv has this info on their website i'm sure they would except the letter in lieu of the Manufactures recall clearance letter. I spoke to them and they said they would except it. |
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Replying to: mdbuffy (Nov 22, 2007 9:29 am) http://www.thestar.com/article/278716 |
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