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| keep up the pressure people. once again i will revert to the stat of how man cars are on track to enter canada this year by importation. under 150,000. most of that are from dealers and brokers. not enough pressure but there always has to be a few people to stir things up. just wait till the dollar goes back down, all the rebates come off and they will just raise the prices again. so for a little short term gain you are screwing us with long term pain. i betcha if there were 100 people on this site 5 of you have actually brought a car back. not enough pressure people. go to work focus all your energy on your kids/ family cause i will tell you this all the time you people are wasting on waititng to see if your cars quailify or if you will be able to register that car in canada is not worth my hasssle to save a few thousand bucks. you probably wouldnt be buying a new car anyways so go visit your used car dealers as they are all importing vehicles from the states to keep up with what you people have tried to determine is the market. but in reality you sit on here talking like your ready to pounce on that big deal in the states when the chances have passed you by. you tell the dealers i am going to the states when in fact your not your just delaying when your buying a car. forgo all that nonsense will you and support canadian way of life. even if it costs you a little more money on your monthly paymnets, as all of you dont have the cash saved up to go risk it in the states. 98 percent of you will use borrowed money and call it cash. once again a concerned citizen not a dealer or salesman | |
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Replying to: nowarranty3 (Nov 22, 2007 7:49 am)
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Please help, I'm playing catch-up at the moment. 1) Highlander Hybrid, the standard build is with the " immobilizer" but MUST I order the optional "Anti-Theft w/ Immobilizer" in order to satisfy the RIV requirements and also with the 2) RAV4 LTD it's built with " immobilizer" but do I need to order the optional "V.I.P. RS3200 Plus System (PIO)" Thanks |
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Replying to: mccreeper (Nov 22, 2007 9:04 am)
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| I think this forum is to provide average car buyers the information of "How to import cars from US to Canada", not to debate on "Should or shouldn't we import cars from US to Canada". Some posts up there are really off topic. | |
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During 2003-2004 Transport Canada (TC) decided to adopt an United Nations theft deterrent and immobilizer standard. After consultation with the automobile manufacturers, Insurance Bureau of Canada, Insurance Corporation of British Columbia and other auto and insurance industry groups Transport Canada unilaterally decided to jettison Canadian Motor Vehicle Standard 114 and replace it with the UN standard effective Sept 01 2007. That is cars manufactured before Sept. 01 2007 fall under the old standard which essentially was a copy of FMVSS 114 the US standard and to which the European Standard was also deemed to conform. During the consultation process in 2003-2004 with respect to the adoption of the amended CMVSS114 (the UN Standard), the Canadian Motor vehicle Association objected as did the Insurance Bureau of Canada and the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia. The Insurance Corporation of British Columbia and the Insurance Bureau of Canada wanted a common standard i.e. FMVSS114 with the option for Canadians importing from US to install a home grown version of CMVSS/FMVSS 114 (BC home grown!!!). Major problems arose beginning Sept. 01 2007 when most automobile manufacturers looked for ways to impose non-tariff barriers to private auto imports from the US. CMVSS114 was the ideal candidate and most auto manufacturers, including GM, in the case of the Corvette about which I originally enquired, are using it to prevent Canadians from buying motor vehicles in the U.S. at lower prices than available in in Canada. If CMVSS 114 did not exist they would look around for something else. The solution is harmonization of motor vehicle standards which Transport Canada have opposed to the detriment of taxpayers who pay their salaries. Accordingly, I do not believe that it is simply the matter of an immobilizer or an absorber. People are flocking to the United States (in such numbers to buy the vehicle of their choice at a lower cost than is available in Canada) that Transport Canada had to change its position with respect to physically allowing purchasers of inadmissible cars into Canada last weekend because the Canada Border Service Agency was inundated at the Canadian Border crossings with so many people with cars that suddenly and unexpectedly had become inadmissible notwithstanding that the purchased had done the proper due diligence with respect to the admissibility of the car before they bought it. For example, most Fords were admissible last week, then on last weekend they became inadmissible. This also happened with a couple of other brands. Most GM’s have been inadmissible. The following statistics compiled by The Registrar of Imported Vehicles (“RIV”) demonstrate the number of Canadians who may have been or will be affected by the unharmonized Transport Canada regulations: Number of Canadians who bought U.S. vehicles last month. 25,000 Estimated number of Canadians who will buy a vehicle in the U.S. this year. 170,000 Previous record for number of Canadians buying U.S. vehicles. 112,000 Estimated number of vehicles purchased in the U.S. that will be new. 40% Number of Canadians calling the registrar per day, looking for information on importing American cars. 5,000 Number of Canadians who called earlier this week, when the dollar hit $1.08 (U.S.) Source: Registrar of Imported Vehicles The status of the harmonization initiative that started in 2002 is shown in the following table: If above table does not appear, go to: http://capcinfo.ca/english/reports/documents/2007/RegHarmon_e.pdf The following is the Report of the Canadian Automotive Partnership Council June 2005: Security and Prosperity Partnership Consultation Vehicle Manufacturers in the North American Environment The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Background: In general, Canadian safety policy has a consistent structure with the U.S. policy. The Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (CMVSS) are largely similar to, and patterned after, the American Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS), and flows naturally from the high level of integration in the industry. However, exceptions between the two nations' safety standards do exist with additional exceptions being contemplated. In addition to the actual standards, differences exist between Canadian and American authorities with respect to how vehicle certification is undertaken to show compliance with those standards. Significant differences exist between government and industry regarding the extent to which engineering judgment and electronic simulation should be accommodated for vehicle certification and the level of documentation necessary to demonstrate full compliance. Transport Canada's position would appear to be significantly different than that of the U.S. NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) and is viewed by industry as an impediment to innovative practices to the testing and early commercialization of advanced technologies. (1) CMVSS 208 - Frontal impact occupant protection standards Issue: Transport Canada has proposed requirements for Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (CMVSS) 208 for Frontal Occupant Protection that are not harmonized with the belted requirements contained in the recently amended U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) 208. Industry has formally requested data from Transport Canada that supports the need for different belted occupant standards for chest deflection in Canada than in the US. (chest deflection is one component of this amendment). Transport Canada acknowledges that no Canadian field data is available that would specifically support the intended unique Canadian chest protection requirements. In the absence of unique Canadian data, industry can see no technological reason for a different chest deflection standard in Canada. Transport Canada's proposal would create a further disharmonized regulation despite the fact that they have failed to demonstrate material public benefit that would otherwise be observed from harmonizing with the equivalent U.S. 208. Transport Canada's own benefit analysis, which the industry feels is overstated, indicates only a ½ of 1% reduction in fatalities and injuries. Considering that approx 40% of all vehicle related fatalities and injuries are still related to impaired driving and approx 35% are related to unbelted occupants, the government may want to consider focusing their efforts on areas of occupant safety that present greater opportunities for reduction, such as these driver behaviors. The goal is to harmonize the requirements of CMVSS 208 with the equivalent belted requirements of US regulation FMVSS 208. (3) CMVSS 215 - Bumpers Issue: Canadian standards stipulate an impact to the front or rear of the vehicle at 8 km/h (5 mph) and pendulum impacts on the corner of the vehicle at 4.8 km/h (3 mph). The Canadian t |
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hey i understand the savings, but something bigger is going on here is all i am trying to say that will have an impact on the future. and just curious what price range of vehicle are you dreaming of buying that would save you $10,000 dollars. because if i told you i am buying an escalade and saving 10,000 dollars you probably wouldlnt care about my kids education you would tell me to buy a smaller car. and if you told me you were buying a minivan and you would be saving 10,000 dollars i would tell you you were misinformed. its not all peaches across the border do all your homework because at the end of the day with lower prices in canada and lower interest rates your payments will be very similar in canada verses the states
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Replying to: vlaady (Nov 22, 2007 9:07 am) If it is a Sport, Limited or Hybrid, you should be fine. These three versions all have an immobilizer. It is only the base where it is optional. |
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Replying to: jsmith1957 (Nov 22, 2007 9:19 am) |
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