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Re: no letter for highlander Sport & limited [wrajinder] by showmeanimport
Nov 20, 2007 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: wrajinder (Nov 20, 2007 1:21 pm)

Sorry friend...you are 100% wrong on this. RIV has confirmed for me 3 times with 2 different agents that this is totally not correct. All Toyota's manufactured after Sept. 1 are effectively now inadmissible because you will never get a 114 compliance letter. Period. This is reality now. RIV wont say they are inadmissible but they are because toyota will never give you the letter they tell you that they need...
 
I was interpreting things the same way as you but now know how to read the list. Every notes section has the words "See explanation section". These 3 words apply to all cars listed in the admissible column. When you refer to the explanation section it tells you that you need a 114 compliance letter. This is how it is working...
 
Sucks but true. They need to take all toyotas and list them as inadmissible because they effectively are...
 
Cheers
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Re: no letter for highlander Sport & limited [showmeanimport] by wrajinder
Nov 20, 2007 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: showmeanimport (Nov 20, 2007 3:01 pm)

I have no idea when did you last time talked to them. Just to let you know It has been confiermed to me by 4 diff agents in last 4 days. Further to this I have been confirmed on this by TC directly. . Toyota has already sent info about highlander compliance to RIV last week.
 
Just to go into more detail. If you go and check specs for all vehilces shown as admissible without immobilizer as standard .They carry see notes section. as Highlander base model do. You have to see " safety" column in all vehilce specifications.
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Re: no letter for highlander Sport & limited [showmeanimport] by wrajinder
Nov 20, 2007 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: showmeanimport (Nov 20, 2007 3:01 pm)

Just to clarify over here. After your post I just talked to another agent in last one minute. WE DO NOT NEED LETTER FOR HIGHLANDER SPORT & LIMITED MODLES. Please try to clarify yourself and post right info over here. I am just talking about 2008. highlander sport & highlander limited built after sept 1/07.
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pre Sept 1 2007 by eieio2
Nov 20, 2007 (3:31 pm)
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has anyone imported a 2008 Cadillac EXT (pre Sept. 1) .... I have bought one and have not brought it to Canada as yet .... border did say the it was admissible
 
Just curious if anyone has imported one ....
 
Thanks!
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CBC Story on Immobilizer Trade Barrier by mars_25
Nov 20, 2007 (3:32 pm)
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As per Post#2281 - check out the CBC tonight! Harvard Gould is on at 5:30 est. with the business news… and the National is of course at 10:00. Robert Lamb is going to be interviewed (who has been in stories featured in the Montreal Gazette and The Globe and Mail). Mr. Lamb also has sent open letters to PM Harper and Finance Minister Flaherty on this issue.
 
I guess we'll see if the CBC is a friend of the enterprising little guy or the overly anal bureaucratic establishment.
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nightmare experience by gaut
Nov 20, 2007 (4:33 pm)
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Here is my story. On November 2nd I purchased a 2008 Sienna LE. Before purchasing, I phoned RIV because I couldn't find it on the lists of admissibility. I was told that this vehicle was admissible, so I made the purchase. On Nov. 9th I picked it up at the daeler in Fargo and made it to the Pembina border at 4:15 p.m. After having presented my papers I was refused entry. I felt sick. They told me the october manufacturing date was the problem with my vehicle. I was unable to contact anyone at RIV or Transport Canada and it was the start of a long weekend. I had to turn back and leave the vehicle in Pembina where it remains. A 12 hour day had now turned into a nightmare with many more to come. The following week, after numerous phone calls and emails to RIV and TC, I have not made any progress. I was told that the change of admissibility was made on Nov. 1st. I argued that I was given the wrong information by an agent at RIV and they had put me in this predicament.
I have been told about this announcement coming, but it sounds like only vehicles purchased before Nov 1st will be allowed in. These vehicles manufactured after Sept.1st have an engine imobilizer and not an anti theft engine imobilizer required in Canada. Toyota probably did this to prevent dealerships to sell to Canada. RIV and TC insist that Toyota is calling the shots. They are the ones who decide what is admissible according to Canadian standards. I was also told by an imobilizer installer in Manitoba that he can make this vehicle conform to standard for only 250.00$. The Toyota dealership meanwhile said it would cost thousands of dollars if they did it.
On Nov. 16th I went to check on my vehicle and changed the temporary permit. When I re-entered at the border, a guard told me I could take the vehicle in, but I would probably have to export it after TC makes it's announcement. Being alone and not wanting to add miles to the vehicle, I left it there.
I am at a loss as to what to do. Temporary insurance is only good for 30 days. I now have what is considered a used vehicle. I will probably have to trade it on another vehicle in the States (more time and money) and lose out on the trade. I am stressed out over this. If anyone has suggestions or ideas, please write them here.
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Re: nightmare experience [gaut] by beaurocratsuck
Nov 20, 2007 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: gaut (Nov 20, 2007 4:33 pm)

I have a lot of suggestions but most of them would be illegal.
 
You cannot trust that the beaurocrats or the minister of transportation will act in your best interests so I think you are wise to leave your vehicle on the US side until we get a clear, concise and definitive ruling from TC.
 
I bought an inadmissible vehicle on October 18 based on the advice of two different RIV agents.(I always phone at least twice) When I told an RIV agent last week that I had been told in early October it was OK she said there is no way an agent would have told me that and if I didn't have a file number tough. I said since you are calling me a liar I need your name and a file number.
 
As of today my vehicle is still inadmissible and another call to TC remains unanswered. I did get an e mail from RIV confirming my vehicle is inadmisible and telling me all the files relating to vehicles purchased before Nov 01 are now inaccesible to RIV
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Re: not enough support [darfer] by hammatime
Nov 20, 2007 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: darfer (Nov 20, 2007 9:30 am)

darfer:
 
How reliable is the RIV statement that letters of recall for Honda are not needed because Honda is "not cooperating". Do you have it in writing.
 
If that is RIV's corporate position, then why can't that reasoning/principle be extended to other areas where the manufacturer is "not cooperating" - i.e. the CMVSS 114 thing.
 
It sounds great but if it came verbally from RIV, I'd be weary of relying on it.
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Re: nightmare experience [gaut] by melvis
Nov 20, 2007 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: gaut (Nov 20, 2007 4:33 pm)

Sorry to hear about your situation. I just about made a deal on a vehicle in Fargo as well, I'm glad that I came across this website first. RIV told me the vehicle was ok to import on my first call. The second call they told me to contact the manufacturer. Of course the manufacturer told me to contact TC and RIV. Anyway I hope you documented your call to RIV (name of agent, date). RIV has taken my name when I have made queries. Maybe time to put your MP to work or maybe a loudmouth like Gordon Sinclair, Richard Cloutier or Pat Martin needs to hear your story. Good luck.
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Re: not enough support [mccreeper] by hammatime
Nov 20, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: mccreeper (Nov 20, 2007 10:27 am)

Most of us on this board (potential importers/importers that have been blind-sided) are concerned citizens too. Not just for our own cause, but for others. That's why we take the time to read, give our experiences and advice to help others.
 
We are concerned citizens because:
- a lawful process established by our country is being manipulated and hijacked such that the lawful process which is our right, is being voided
 
We are concerned citizens because:
- we are not standing by and letting the manufacturers roll over us (likely with the vehicles we bought but can't register!)
 
We are concerned citizens because:
- we are using all lawful means at our disposal to correct the travesty that is taking place by trying to persuade our elected officials to ensure Canadian rules, regulations and policies are instituted, implemented and enforced for the benefit of Canadians, not corporations engaged in a fleecing exercise
 
We are concerned citizens because:
- enough is enough
 
Does anyone really think the sudden parity pricing initiatives we now see in Canada would have occurred, had it not been for the importers

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