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Importing to Ontario - send title by marcush
Jun 14, 2006 (1:31 pm)
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FYI...
I am bidding on eBay for a 2-3 year old SUV made in NA. I will import to Ontario and save $12-15K CAD all in, depending on travel. The car will have missed a few harsh Ottawa winters.
 
From conversations with US border officers, 14 Jun 2006:
> Ogdensburg: Need the original title in your name 72 hrs ahead. Fax of title no longer accepted. No copies needed. Open 24 hrs for driving through.
> Alexandria Bay: Need original title and copy of bill of sale 72 hours ahead. Fax of title not accepted. No title copies needed. And, for new cars need confirmation of no lien. Open 24 hrs.
> Detroit Fort St. Cargo Facility (Ambassador Bridge): only need fax of title 72 hrs ahead. Open 24 hrs.
 
US Ports - addresses/phone: http://www.customs.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/
 
Marcus
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lien holder's letter of permission by growwise
Jun 14, 2006 (6:15 pm)
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I live in Ontario and most likely will be in the market for a new car in one year and probably wont have it paid off for five years from then. I am also contemplating a move to states in this time frame (perhaps one year into 5 year note)
 
Does anyone have a list of lenders in canada who will let you take a vehicle still under finance (title with lien holder) to US? This is a hypothetical question since It is one of those what-if situations.
 
When I moved to canada from US, GMAC had no problem in providing such letter of permission to show the customs along with copy of title. As I am doing my research, I am realizing that only domestics' (GMAC, Ford Credit, DCX credit) will do such and that too only for finance and not leases which is fine with me. Any others?
 
I did call randomly Honda/Toyota/VolksWagen/Mercedes Benz etc and all were firm in saying that the vehicle will either have to be paid off or liquidated. They probably dont deserve my business but If I like a european car (not saab or volvo which come under gmac/ford credit) then I should be able to buy it notwithstanding the arrogant F/I.
 
I have no clue regarding the banks and what their policies are though.. I am kinda apprehensive that my choice will come down to lender rather than the manufacturer/car itself. Anybody in the same situation?
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Re: Do you have to register in Canada to get insurance? [socala4] by pkfolly
Jun 15, 2006 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: socala4 (Jun 06, 2006 11:34 am)

I'm a Canadian citizen living in the States. I have a 95 E320 Mercedes I'd like to park in my mother's house in Toronto, both to store it, and use it the couple of times a year I go to visit. Any suggestions about how to handle this? Should I just maintain the US registration, or go for Canadian plates and registration?
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Re: Do you have to register in Canada to get insurance? [pkfolly] by socala4
Jun 15, 2006 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: pkfolly (Jun 15, 2006 5:49 pm)

I don't really know much about this, so perhaps others can answer, but a few guesses/ ideas if you don't bother with the RIV process:
 
-Since the car is staying in Canada, I guess that you'll be breaking the law by "importing" it. But whether or not you'll actually get caught is another matter entirely, a question that I can't answer.
 
-One question: How will you re-register this car each year? If an inspection, etc. is required, you'll have to figure out how to keep it registered while the car remains out of state. (I would bet that you'd be violating Ontario law by driving a car that isn't properly registered if you allowed the registration to expire, but whether you'd actually be cited for this, I don't know.)
 
-Your insurance company may also not like this, a US insurer won't likely insure for a car that has been unofficially exported. (Yes, US policies are fine while you're driving in Canada for a visit, but probably not for something like this.) If you have an accident, and they figure out that this car has effectively been exported, they may try to avoid honoring your policy. In any case, you may (or may not) need valid registration to keep your policy in effect.
 
On the other hand, you should note that the RIV list indicates that your car would require extensive modifications to the bumpers and child restraints to be permitted for import. According to RIV, it must be performed by a MB dealer in Canada.
 
Sounds as if this car could potentially create a small financial disaster if you were to import it legally. I'm not your attorney, but let's just say that you may have some serious expenses if you choose to comply with the law, so you'll have to decide what this means to you. At the very least, get an estimate from a Canadian MB dealer for the cost of conversion prior to importing it, so that you can make a rational decision.
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Re: Do you have to register in Canada to get insurance? [socala4] by pkfolly
Jun 15, 2006 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: socala4 (Jun 15, 2006 6:14 pm)

Yeah, I checked the RIV site too, which is what brought me to this forum. The car is registered in a state that doesn't require inspections, and they are quite happy renewing the tags by mail, as long as I pay the small yearly tax. The blue book value is about 4K wholesale, so I'm not too worried about collision and comprehensive. Liability is another issue. I'd just leave it parked at home, but we live downtown, with all our garage space occupied, so it would just get trashed/stolen parked on the street. I'm leaning toward the don't ask, don't tell solution. If I ever got stopped in Canada, I got my US license and home address.
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Importing a Nissan Pathfinder into Quebec by valh4r
Jun 17, 2006 (5:40 am)
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Hi everyone,
I am considering importing a (new)nissan Pathfinder from Newyork into Quebec. The price difference is about 7k .
I called Nissan Canada and inquired about the warranty,
Their response was: we will honor what is written in the warranty manual of the vehicle including applying the restrictions. (?)
Does anyone have any experience with warranty service from Nissan?
 
Also, What method of payment do you use to purchase the vehicle?
Are 2 trips to the dealer required (1) to purchase and pickup the title documents and invoice and a 2nd trip to go back and pickup the vehicle.
 
TIA for your feedback
this is a great forum.
#132 of 4497
Toronto Star by canucknuckled
Jun 17, 2006 (11:21 am)
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Folks,
Visit todays' Toronto Star (http//:www.thestar.com) and click on the Wheels tab (second row at the top) for a few interesting articles about the subject matter of this forum:
1. American sticker shock$16,740 (U.S.) $22,510 (Cdn.);
2. So you want to buy a car in the U.S.;
3. Big differences between similar models in Canada and the U.S.
I do not believe the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) or state laws allow a retailer to discriminate based upon the geographical origin of a potential buyer. The warranty issue, as I mentioned in previous posts is a bilateral contract and as a buyer you agree to the conditions (some corporations offer more latitude than others). Personally I believe that the stringent interpretation of warranties is in bad faith by the corporation and makes obvious the collusive agreements that the corporation and dealers impose upon consumers, contrary to anti-trust laws.
Note the predictable responses from corporate representatives.
If after some period of time the content of those articles eventually prompts you to archives that demand payment, post that you want to see those articles and myself or others will post the saved content of the articles.
#133 of 4497
Re: Importing a Nissan Pathfinder into Quebec [valh4r] by marcush
Jun 19, 2006 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: valh4r (Jun 17, 2006 5:40 am)

Payment: Certified cheque from Canadian bank, or money order in US currency. Some sellers will accept major credit card for the downpayment, or a portion of payment.
Obviously, never pay with a third party instant cash transfer service offered in the USA (no tracking or guarantee).
 
Trips: Buyers tend to make one trip only, especially for new cars. First ensure you are comfortable with the credibility of the seller. Also suggest that you receive written confirmation of the features, miles, preps...
Just to ensure there is no misunderstanding. The magnitude of the risk on a new car is around $1,000 (i.e. a feature not provided, an unknown cost, a scratch). Two trips, or one 72 hour trip, justs eats into the cost savings. And you will have already sunk travel costs. Better: one trip, lots of knowledge before, negotiate hard if there is a surprise, take the risk.
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Re: Insurance/licensing problems [knsgee] by sfaraday
Jun 22, 2006 (11:34 pm)
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Replying to: knsgee (Jun 06, 2006 6:55 pm)

Hi,
  I was wondering if you got an answer to your question as I am trying to do the same thing. I want to buy a used car out of Texas and drive it back but I like you cannot get the tags to drive it back?
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Import and drive a used car back to Canada? by sfaraday
Jun 22, 2006 (11:37 pm)
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Has anyone bought a used car in the USA and figured out how to get plates so that you can drive it back to Canada?

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