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#372 of 1157 Re: lexus411 NC opportunities [klv3]
Oct 13, 2004 (6:24 pm)
I just purchased a new 2004 GX470 9700G yesterday. I thought I should provide my feedback to this forum as well.
It is all the options, including KDSS, Nav/ML,
RSES, rear spoiler, roof rack, tow hitch and ball mount, preferred accessary, etc.
It is relatively difficult to find a GX470 with KDSS in Southern Calif. with the color that I like. Most GX470s are without KDSS on the market.
It was not easy to negotiate prices in my area, since KDSS-equipped GX is hard to get.
Most dealers ask for $2,500 over invoice, than lower their prices significantly later.
After dealing with 5 dealerships for about one week, I finally was able to get a fair price for the fully optioned model with the exact color and KDSS. The MSRP is $53,688, the invoice price is $46,654. I was happy to buy the car at $600 over invoice, from a very nice and friendly sales manager at a beautiful and superb dealership, Lexus of Cerritos. I love that place and the sales manger there.
The other dealers were willing to offer $800 to $1,000 over the invocie.
So far, I find the GX470 very powerful, smooth, and quiet. The 320 ft-lb of torque and the delivery of massive low-end torque hep significantly in GX470. It is not just the horse power, but the combination. KDSS helps in cornering and reduces the body roll. I am an expert by profession in structural dynamics and vibration control, and I think KDSS helps the suspension system.
In my area, there are very limited supply of GX with KDSS.
All the dealers in my area told me that they do not have price quotes for 2005 GX470, and cannot give me concrete information or delivery dates for 05 GX 470.
Therfore, I decided to buy a 2004 GX470 with KDSS at this time.
I might have to wait until jan. 2005 to get a new 2005 GX if I wait....
I love my GX so far. It is beautiful, elegant, imposing, powerful, smooth and quiet.
No steering wheel vibration, no rear axle thump, just ncie and smooth so far....
For a 4WD SUV with off-road capability, 3rd row, and over 6,000 lb, fit-and-finish, build quality, reliability, I think GX470 is perhaps the best choice. MDX is great too, of course; but not its look. All European brands are relatively unreliable, and with consedrably lower grade of fit and finish or build quality.
#373 of 1157 Curb Weight?
Oct 14, 2004 (2:15 am)
The lexus web site lists the curb weight at 4750lbs. Does the GX qualify for the 6000lb tax credit? Where are you finding the listed eligibility? I believe this tax incentive will expire this year.
#374 of 1157 CURB WEIGHT
Oct 14, 2004 (9:38 am)
Lexus GX470, is listed on Tax web site!
Some people had some issues re Weight?
Any one here, who was successful using it for 60000lb weight basis tax deduction and got their money back?
I am in market for 2005. Per Lexus out on 12th December, there will be a sports version with more horse power too? No official brochure yet?
Any increase in weight? need to be seen.
By the way what is KDSS and why not standard?
#375 of 1157 Re: lexus411 NC opportunities [klv3]
Oct 14, 2004 (12:34 pm)
Johnson Lexus (IMO) is the worst dealer from a sales point of view that I have ever tried to work with. I currently own a Lexus which I do get serviced at Johnson and for the most part I have had few problems with their service. I tried to buy my current Lexus from them but gave up after the sales people (yes I tried more than one) would not even return my calls.
I bought my car at Hendricks Lexus and was treated like a King. After the purchase, Johnson told me next time to let them workout the deal. Well, the same stuff again. No flexibility on pricing.. Either you take the deal or go else where. So I am still looking... Maybe I should just buy the GX from southern CA and have it shipped. I would still save money.
When I ask Johnson Lexus how much above invoice, their response was we don't sell our cars in that manner. We give some dollars off MSRP, but we don't give x dollars above invoice pricing.
#376 of 1157 Free 3rd row seats
Oct 14, 2004 (5:17 pm)
If the MSRP is reduced $2030 on vehicles with 3rd row seats, is it also reduced the same for vehicles on the market without 3 row seats? Would the 5 seater thus have a MSRP of $43970?
#377 of 1157 Re: Free 3rd row seats [erice1]
Oct 14, 2004 (7:40 pm)
That's a very good question. I am afraid the answer is that third row seats are now standard and hence you can't get a five seater.
#378 of 1157 Re: Free 3rd row seats [davidc1]
Oct 15, 2004 (6:22 am)
Actually, I'm taking an extended test drive on a GX470 with only 5 seats. I've noticed that the 8 seater has now been reduced $2030 to the same MSRP, but was wondering if the 5 seater should also be reduced.
#379 of 1157 Re: Free 3rd row seats [erice1]
Oct 15, 2004 (8:56 am)
It should be. But I doubt it will be. 3rd row is now a no cost option. I am not even sure if they'll make anymore 5 seaters. Just my guess.
#380 of 1157 Tax website listing the gx 470
Oct 17, 2004 (7:06 am)
Can someone direct me to the site where the GX470 is listed as an eligible 6000lb vehicle for a tax credit?
#381 of 1157 Re: Tax website listing the gx 470 [klv3]
Oct 17, 2004 (7:23 am)
I don't have a web site reference, but it is my understanding from my accountant that the official manufacturers GVW listed on the metal plate inside of the driver's door is the valid measurement. And I believe for the GX470 that figure is over 6,000 lbs (barely).
My idea of putting a heavy duty roof rack or other such ad-on to the Acura MDX (5,850+/- lbs GVW) would NOT qualify and might get me a suite next to Martha Stewart if I tried.
You may want to consult your own accountant or tax advisor on the write-off terms and conditions. There are potentially future recapture requirements and other factors that should be understood before you elect take the Section 179 write off.