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Re: oil change recommendation? [craign] by altair4
Dec 02, 2004 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: craign (Dec 02, 2004 9:14 am)

Personally, I would not take my Passat to a Jiffy Lube. I've read too many posts on too many forums to feel comfortable with this approach - they can't seem to deal with the engine belly pan.
 
So, that leaves either the dealer or and Indy. If your indy works regularly on VW's and Audi's, that would be a good choice.
 
For now, I'm using my dealer for oil changes (I opt not to fight for warranty coverage later, should there be a problem).
 
Which ever way you go, since you've just bought the car, I'd ask the tech to make sure that all of the fasteners are in place on that belly pan and to replace any missing ones. It's not fun to have the thing drop down onto the road surface while travelling at interstate speeds!
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Re: oil change recommendation? [altair4] by craign
Dec 02, 2004 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: altair4 (Dec 02, 2004 10:35 am)

Thank you very much. That's what I was leading towards. The dealer quoted me a price of $36.00 for a standard oil change, w/fluid top-offs, and a filter.
  I am really enjoying the Passat wagon(knock on wood). On a side note, I recently changed two bulbs(headlight and directional) and couldn't believe how easy the access was to them.
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Re: oil change recommendation? [craign] by altair4
Dec 02, 2004 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: craign (Dec 02, 2004 11:42 am)

Was that a VW deaelrship offering that $36 oil change? I ask since VWoA recently issued a letter that strongly recommends oils that meet their specification (VW spec 502.00) for the 1.8T engine. Most of these are 5w-40 multigrade oils, with a smattering of 5w-30 and one 0w-40. ALL ARE SYNTHETIC OILS.
 
If you are going to the dealership, consider bringing your own synthetic oil with you. I do and my dealer doesn't mind. They charge about $15 for the labor, plus the filter, oil disposal, etc. All told, my last oil change was about $45, using approved synth oil. You can find a list of VW-approved oils here:
 
www.vw.com/SP/pdf/oilchart.pdf
 
But be warned, some of these oils are not readily available (I've never seen Elf or Total oil in the US). You should be able to find Mobil 1 0w-40 at some Walmarts and some auto parts stores. You should be able to find Valvoline Synpower 5w-40 at NAPA stores (you can order it - Part #966)
 
And finally, Valvoline's website DOES NOT show VW spec 502.00 approval for Synpower 5w-30, despite it being included on the approved list. Good luck!
 
PS: If you have the 1.8T engine, there has been a recent TSB that has changed the oil filter to a larger one (formerly used only on VW diesel engines). Make sure you get the larger filter.
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Yes, Use 5-40 and the Larger Oil Filter by micweb
Dec 02, 2004 (12:19 pm)
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Dealers were partly responsible for the recent 1.8T woes, since they were using 5-30 non-synthetic oil even though the manual calls for 5-40 VW spec oil (but fails to add that this is, by default, full synthetic oil).
 
So I second the last poster's recommendation to take in your own oil (or at least insist on the Castrol Syntec 5-40 that is available to dealers - this usually bumps the oil change price to $90). And I also second the recommendation to remind the dealer about the TSB that upgrades the filter size. It's amazing how many dealers (or at least the service advisors) don't keep track of these changes. Call me paranoid, but until enough time has elapsed for all dealers to wake up to the importance of the manual's requirements, I'd double check them.
 
My own humble Golf 2.0 requires 5-40 oil. When I asked the dealer, they said 5-30 is ok too. Fortunately I used Mobil 1 full synthetic, which although it doesn't satisfy the weight range requirement, isn't going to have sludging problems (and of course the normally aspirated engine is easier on the oil than the turbo versions). So obviously there has been a disconnect between what VW puts in its manuals, and what the dealers have been doing. Which surprises me.
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by fish8
Dec 02, 2004 (12:27 pm)
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I thought I would share this short story. I was at Walmart looking at their Mobil 1 oils and couldn't find 0w 40. A Walmart associate came out and asked if I needed any help. I advised him that i was looking for a specific oil for my car. He inquired about which car I own and said they didn't carry 0w40. But he did say that a Bently Rep (My VW dealer is also a Bentley dealer) came to Walmart the other day and bought up all of his Synthetic oil in a certain grade. Does it seem odd that a BENTLEY dealer is shopping for their oil at WALMART????
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Why strange? by krzyss
Dec 02, 2004 (1:23 pm)
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Mobil 1 in Walmart is the same Mobil 1 in Auto Zone or anywhere else.
 
Krzys
 
PS I would imagine buying bulk would be even cheaper.
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Re: [fish8] Bentley and Walmart by altair4
Dec 02, 2004 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: fish8 (Dec 02, 2004 12:27 pm)

What would be really interesting would be to see what the mark-up was between the Walmart shelf and the Bentley customer!
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my guess by krzyss
Dec 02, 2004 (1:40 pm)
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1000%
 
Krzys
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I'd like to get in the by driftracer
Dec 02, 2004 (2:19 pm)
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middle of THAT transaction!
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Re: oil change recommendation? [craign] by 600kgolfgt
Dec 02, 2004 (5:17 pm)
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Do not, I repeat, do not take your Passat to any Jiffy Lube or quick lube place. In addition to the VW spec synthetic oil that your car needs, it also requires the factory Mann oil filter as well. The filter contains a check valve that not only acts to regulate your engine's oil pressure, but also prevents dirty engine oil from going back into your engine once you turn off the ignition.
 
The oil filters these quick lube places use (Fram, Purolator, etc) are basically junk as far as your car is concerned, and should be avoided at all costs.

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