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Replying to: todd53 (Nov 23, 2004 9:13 am) http://www.redlineoil.com I do not know if Redline claims to be 505.01 certified/qualified. |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 21, 2004 7:44 am) |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 21, 2004 9:22 am) PROCESS: 1.) Remove all the Spark Plugs from the engine 2.) Disable the ignition system 3.) Attach a small dia. hose to a small funnel 4.) Purchase some penetrating oil / carbon solvent from an auto parts store. There are many products on the market. 5.) Pour some product into each cylinder. Be generous with the product. Let it sit in the cylinder and soak. It might be a good idea to let it sit over night. 6.) Crank the engine over and introduce more product into the cylinders. Let it sit again for a period of time. 7.) When you feel the that process has been completed, drain the engine oil, change the filter and refill the crankcase with clean oil. 8.) Install the spark plugs, and re-connect the ignition system. Put an additive in the fuel tank that is designed to dissolve carbon in the combustion chamber. 9.) Start the engine, and let the engine idle till it reaches operating temperature. 10.) Take the vehicle out for a drive on the highway at normal speeds. |
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WEll I suppose with such a drastic condition as frozen piston rings you wouldn't even need a compression test. The blow-by would be significant. You'd be driving a steam locomotive. I have to say I have never seen blow-by cured from a can. Best I've ever seen a can do is clean up a dirty injector and occasionally free up a sticky hydraulic lifter. But again, faced with an engine tear-down, I'd even pay a shaman to dance around my car. |
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Back in the day when the EPA wasn't looking over our shoulders, we would take a carbon loaded engine to operating temp and start pouring ATF down the carb. Smoked like a sonofagun, keep pouring until the engine just choked and died. Let it sit for a couple of hours, then fire it up, get it on the highway and air it out. Sometimes a carbon dome would drop out of the head and sound like a rock bouncing around in there. But when all was said and done, car ran better, started better, and no pinging. I would not even consider this on the newer hyper-controlled fuel and ignition system engines, but it sure made those old V8's that the little old ladies puttered around town in run better!
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I think it would be highly doubtful a car would have "frozen rings". Even so, with the accessibility or lack of on the modern cars, I have to wonder how this product could even be poured into the spark plug holes? Maybe on a Model A?
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Replying to: jlflemmons (Nov 24, 2004 9:37 am) |
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 24, 2004 10:43 am) Higher Than Expected Oil Consumption (Clean Piston Rings) #02-06-01-009C - (Oct 23, 2003) 1996-2000 Cadillac Concours 1996-2002 Cadillac Eldorado 1996-2003 Cadillac DeVille, Seville with 4.6L Engine (VINs Y, 9 -- RPOs LD8, L37) This bulletin is being revised to add parts information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-06-01-009B (Section 06 - Engine). VIN Breakpoints Model Year Model VIN Breakpoint 1996-2002 All Above All 2003 DeVille Prior to 3U213641 2003 Seville Prior to 3U215818 Condition Some customers may comment on higher than expected oil consumption. The typical customer with this condition comments on consumption in the range of 0.946L (1 qt) of oil used in 1600-2250 km (1000-1400 mi) of operation. The oil consumption rate and possible oil consumption areas, as per Corporate Bulletin #01-06-01-011 dated March, 2001, should be verified prior to performing the ring cleaning procedure below. The standard for acceptable oil economy and the method for determining oil economy are outlined in Corporate Bulletin #01-06-01-011. Oil Consumption: The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles referenced is 0.946L (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi). This rate only applies to personal use vehicles, under warranty, maintained in accordance with the appropriate maintenance schedule, with less than 58,000 km (36,000 mi), or 80,450 km (50,000 mi) for Cadillac, driven at legal speeds in an unloaded (for trucks) condition. Cause Although there are several reasons for less than expected oil economy described in Corporate Bulletin #01-06-01-011, one area not covered is reduced sealing ability of the rings. Through normal usage, combustion chamber deposits may build up to the point that the movement of the rings could become restricted and prevent the rings from wiping all of the oil off the cylinder walls and allowing it to be burned in the combustion process. Yada, yada, yada.......
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Replying to: alcan (Nov 25, 2004 3:27 am)
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My cure to try would be the old standard of Rislone, one quarter when new oil is put in. Or I add after a quart is used. I run about 500 miles and change oil. It's another additive, so save the flames. It helped on a car I had back in the 80s. Yeah, I know this anecdotal evidence. But it worked. For a couple of bucks, it's a cheap try compared to alternatives that ineffective additives or expensive. |
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