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Re: Not really a fiasco... [roadburner] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 17, 2008 5:41 pm)

I used to do the same thing to the shop that I frequented. I would intentionally take out the air filter, reset tire pressures to odd levels and other minor things to catch them. After the service was done, more often than not, I would find that they didn't "fix" the things I had done... I would talk to the manager and they would pull my vehicle back in and redo it, but after about 3 or 4 times doing this I gave up and went to a different location that while further away from my home, the service was quite a bit better....
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Re: Not really a fiasco... [roadburner] by jipster
Jan 18, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 17, 2008 5:41 pm)

have been extremely pleased with the BMW(Swope in Louisville) and
 
Is that in the Swope Supercenter on Hurstborne Lane? If so that is right next to the Swope Buick GMC Center that I go to.
 
I suppose it's a good sign that I went in asking them to check my brakes and they didn't try to sell me something I didn't need.
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Re: Not really a fiasco... [jipster] by roadburner
Jan 18, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Jan 18, 2008 1:22 pm)

Is that in the Swope Supercenter on Hurstborne Lane? If so that is right next to the Swope Buick GMC Center that I go to.
 
That's the one; Swope BMW has never tried to sell me something I didn't need. Once when I had the ti in for a coolant and brake fluid change a service advisor mentioned that I would need new tires pretty soon(which I knew), but he didn't try to pressure me into buying tires that day, or at all for that matter.
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Re: My dealer forgot to put engine oil in Infiniti [blooski] by coldcranker
Mar 10, 2008 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: blooski (Dec 10, 2007 4:53 pm)

No engine oil. Amazing story. I don't know how you could drive 40 miles with no engine oil. There must have been a quart or two (just enough to splash up to the oil pump pickup once in a while). Also, you would have noticed the low-oil-pressure light on more frequently if there was absolutely no oil in there. Regardless, the engine was damaged, no doubt. Without constant oil pressure, internal metal parts begin to disintegrate slowly, so you might have put on 200,000 miles worth of wear on the internal parts. Any expert ASE-certified, experienced mechanic would testify to this, in court if necessary. You deserve a new complete engine, valve-train and all.
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oil drain plug by larryg4
Mar 30, 2008 (8:07 am)
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i got a 08 chevy equinox with a 3.4l v6 anyone out there know the wrench size of the oil pan drain plug so i can do my own oil changes?
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Re: oil drain plug [larryg4] by burdawg
Mar 31, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: larryg4 (Mar 30, 2008 8:07 am)

Late model 3.4L are 13mm, but it shouldn't be very hard to figure out if it's different.
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Re: oil drain plug [larryg4] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: larryg4 (Mar 30, 2008 8:07 am)

ya - it's either a 13MM or 15 MM.It'll be metric in anycase.
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Personal Observation...re. Oil Filters by deminin
Apr 13, 2008 (8:45 am)
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We have a 2006 Impala LTZ which has an "Oil Life" monitor...which tells me how soon I need to change the oil/filter. I'm not too sure how it works...probably some sort of Light/Sensor, which measures the clarity of the oil as it passes the sensor. I'm kind of old fashioned, and change the oil/filter every 3,000 miles, anyway. Over the past 2.5 years, I've tried Wix, Napa, Fram and WalMart filters. I notice that with the Wix, Napa, and WalMart filters, at about 3.000 miles, the sensor says I have between 60 and 65% of the oil life remaining. With the Fram, the number is usually around 50%. Also, I notice that when I remove the old filter, the W-W-N filters seem to be "heavier" than the Fram. The combination of the oil sensor, and the "weight" of the old filter tells me that the WalMart, Wix, and Napa filters are probably removing more dirt from the oil than the Fram does. Based upon my experiences, I have quit using Fram, and may just go with the WalMart, since they are only about $2.50. I'm not sure who makes these filters, but they seem to perform just as well as the $8 Wix...and certainly far better than the $5 Fram.
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Re: Personal Observation...re. Oil Filters [deminin] by shipo
Apr 13, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: deminin (Apr 13, 2008 8:45 am)

I think we need to clear up a few misconceptions.
 
1) Your Oil Life Monitor (OLM) does NOT in any way look at your oil. The system is programmed to assume your oil is in a certain condition based upon pre-programmed metrics that in turn were based upon hundreds of thousands of miles of empirical observations (metrics such as how much fuel was consumed, the number of engine revolutions, and the number of cold starts since the OLM was last reset). Said another way, you could use rot-gut oil and an empty filter can and get the exact same OLM recommendations as you would with Mobil 1 oil and a pricey Mobil 1 filter.
 
2) Determining filter effectiveness based upon weight is an exceedingly poor and error ridden methodology, and as such, is not a definitive measure at all.
 
3) While Fram filters have shown up in study after study as being of less quality at any given price point (compared to the competition), that isn't to say that it isn't doing its job after an exceedingly short Oil Change Interval (OCI) of only 3,000 miles. In fact, with an OCI that short, I'd venture to say that any filter (or no filter at all) would be just as effective.
 
4) Please understand that I'm not defending Fram filters, I wouldn't use one on my cars if you paid me to do so.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Personal Observation...re. Oil Filters [shipo] by isellhondas
Apr 15, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Apr 13, 2008 10:30 am)

If anyone ever saw a Fram filter cut in half, compared to a quality filter, they would never use one.
 
But, Fram is perfectly capable of making high quality oil filters too and they do to match the specs of the companies who buy them and private brand them.
 
The off the shelf, discount store orange ones are made to compete price wise.

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