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Re: Lube and Oil Change [jdanbowman] by isellhondas
Dec 28, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: jdanbowman (Dec 27, 2007 3:33 pm)

A lube job every 3000 miles is overkill, big time!
 
Does that Tahoe even have zerk fittings? If so, it doesn't take much at all to give them what little grease they need.
 
Not like the old days.
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Re: Lube and Oil Change [jdanbowman] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: jdanbowman (Dec 27, 2007 3:33 pm)

A lube job every 3K is probably a little overkill, although quickie lube places don't really care. Pumping more grease in will likely not burst the boot (they are designed to let excess grease out anyway. What I would is make a mental (or jot it down) when you lubed the chassis and then every 3rd oil change have the fittings lubed. You can request them not lube them (they will love you for that - less work for them to do), but don't expect a price break because they charge them same for a vehicle that doesn't have zerk fitting or one that has 20 fittings.
 
I know that when I was in the business, I would check and wipe down each fitting, check the boot to see if the fitting could use a little grease and then wipe down the fitting again... that way if the customer happened to check, he could at least tell I did something to them. Whether or not I added grease, at least I checked them.
 
But the way I worked is often the exception... Even now I have to tell the quickie lube guys to make sure they get ALL the fittings and more often than not I come back and find they have missed some, or they have made a huge mess out of my suspension with all the grease they have splattered all over.... but short of doing it myself, I just know what to watch for.
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Re: Lube and Oil Change [isellhondas] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 28, 2007 4:44 pm)

depends on whether it's the newer rack and pinion or the older recirculating ball... even so, I think the ball joints and tie rod ends still had fittings... and you're right, it doesn't take hardly any at all, if any. Just a shot would be sufficient.
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Re: Lube and Oil Change [isellhondas] by jdanbowman
Jan 02, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 28, 2007 4:44 pm)

Thanks to all for your responses. I do recognize that 3000 miles is an overkill. I appreciate your confirmation that the boots are not likely to burst. It just grates me a little to pay for the lube job and am not getting it. I just wanted to make sure that if I did insist that they grease it, it would not burst the boot.
 
Yes the Tahoe does have zerk fittings. I believe there are seven or eight of them (I forget as I have not greased it in a while). I am at that point in my life where I depend on others so I don't have to crawl under my car. I guess if I can't get the quick lube guys to grease it, I will have to crawl back under.
 
Thanks,
Dan Bowman
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Not really a fiasco... by jipster
Jan 17, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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... but does any car repair facility ever actually do the work they claim? I took my car in for a simple oil change today at the dealership. They are suppose to include a simple 15 point inspection. I told them brake level looked low and I probably needed new wipers, but to check them. I get the car back, brakes look fine they say. No mention of wipers. They say the belts are all fine. A year earlier they said I needed my serpintene belt replaced.
 
Now, the blades are absolutely shot. If they would have given me a price within reason I would have gone ahead and bought them. I'll be going to autozone now.
 
They did test my battery though. So, that was a positive. Cold cranking 107 when it should be 170( I think that's what he said). The battery has struggled a bit in the mornings so it probably does need to be replaced. They offered a 7 year GM battery for $170. No thanks. The battery I had for only 2 1/2 years I was planning on taking back to the garage that put it in... but couldn't find the receipt. It was a cheap ole interstate battery... I guess I probably would have gotten something back prorated.
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Re: Not really a fiasco... [jipster] by roadburner
Jan 17, 2008 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Jan 17, 2008 3:25 pm)

... but does any car repair facility ever actually do the work they claim? I took my car in for a simple oil change today at the dealership.
 
I have a friend who intentionally set all four tires to different pressures and let the air out of the spare right before he took it to his VA BMW dealer for a scheduled service. Checking the pressure in all five tires was supposedly included. When the car was returned, he grabbed the service manager and showed him the tire pressures- none of which had been corrected- including the spare.
Having said all that, I have been extremely pleased with the BMW(Swope in Louisville) and Mazda(Kings in Cinci) dealers that I use. In both cases my service advisors are knowledgeable and pleasant to deal with.
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Re: Not really a fiasco... [roadburner] by the_big_al
Jun 27, 2008 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 17, 2008 4:41 pm)

I used to do the same thing to the shop that I frequented. I would intentionally take out the air filter, reset tire pressures to odd levels and other minor things to catch them. After the service was done, more often than not, I would find that they didn't "fix" the things I had done... I would talk to the manager and they would pull my vehicle back in and redo it, but after about 3 or 4 times doing this I gave up and went to a different location that while further away from my home, the service was quite a bit better....
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Re: Not really a fiasco... [roadburner] by jipster
Jan 18, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jan 17, 2008 4:41 pm)

have been extremely pleased with the BMW(Swope in Louisville) and
 
Is that in the Swope Supercenter on Hurstborne Lane? If so that is right next to the Swope Buick GMC Center that I go to.
 
I suppose it's a good sign that I went in asking them to check my brakes and they didn't try to sell me something I didn't need.
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Re: Not really a fiasco... [jipster] by roadburner
Jan 18, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Jan 18, 2008 12:22 pm)

Is that in the Swope Supercenter on Hurstborne Lane? If so that is right next to the Swope Buick GMC Center that I go to.
 
That's the one; Swope BMW has never tried to sell me something I didn't need. Once when I had the ti in for a coolant and brake fluid change a service advisor mentioned that I would need new tires pretty soon(which I knew), but he didn't try to pressure me into buying tires that day, or at all for that matter.
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Re: My dealer forgot to put engine oil in Infiniti [blooski] by coldcranker
Mar 10, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: blooski (Dec 10, 2007 3:53 pm)

No engine oil. Amazing story. I don't know how you could drive 40 miles with no engine oil. There must have been a quart or two (just enough to splash up to the oil pump pickup once in a while). Also, you would have noticed the low-oil-pressure light on more frequently if there was absolutely no oil in there. Regardless, the engine was damaged, no doubt. Without constant oil pressure, internal metal parts begin to disintegrate slowly, so you might have put on 200,000 miles worth of wear on the internal parts. Any expert ASE-certified, experienced mechanic would testify to this, in court if necessary. You deserve a new complete engine, valve-train and all.

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