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Re: How far a car go without oil??? [imidazol97]
by shipo
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Oct 16, 2007 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 16, 2007 10:42 am)
Hehe, I cheat. I NEVER pull my drain plugs out, so I NEVER have to worry about whether they're leaking. I do of course check the filter to make sure all is well there, but filters are usually an either/or situation in that they are either bone dry or gushing buckets (usually from a gasket left behind from the previous filter).
Best Regards,
Shipo
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- #1229 of 1297
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Re: How far a car go without oil??? [shipo]
by imidazol97
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Oct 16, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 16, 2007 10:51 am)
I had the double gasket one time. I dropped the filter into the drain pan of oil and didn't check to be sure the gasket was on the old filter. It was on the flange. I pulled the car out of the garage and saw the oil on the pavement.
Does a suction device draw up as much of the sludgy sediment on the bottom of the oil pan as opening the drain plug and letting it drain for an hour does? Does it leave a quantity behind? Ever tried suctioning and then putting a drain pan under it to see how much comes out?
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- #1230 of 1297
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Re: How far a car go without oil??? [imidazol97]
by shipo
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Oct 16, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 16, 2007 11:16 am)
I habitually check for a stray gasket, and last year, for the first time in literally hundreds of oil changes (maybe thousands?), I glanced up at the filter mount and then went to grab the filter... "What the...?" I looked back to the filter mount and sure enough, there was the gasket from the previous filter stuck tight.
I almost had a gusher of my own. 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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- #1231 of 1297
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Suction device - Re: How far a car go without oil??? [imidazol97]
by rowlandj
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Oct 16, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 16, 2007 11:16 am)
Mercedes uses these at the dealer on all their engines and that's where I got the idea for mine. I can only say that I put as much in now as when I used the older method so I have to think it's getting it all out.
With engines and oils being what they are today I suspect that any sediment is a thing of the past. If your using shorter intervals, which this method makes easy, I think you have even less to worry about.
I have been happy with it on different vehicles and all the home lawn and garden equipment too.
Just my two-cents...
JR
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- #1232 of 1297
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Re: Suction device - Re: How far a car go without oil??? [rowlandj]
by imidazol97
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Oct 16, 2007 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: rowlandj (Oct 16, 2007 1:03 pm)
I understand your message. I was hoping someone had checked to see if any and how much was left behind and what it was like.
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- #1233 of 1297
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Re: Suction device - Re: How far a car go without oil??? [imidazol97]
by shipo
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Oct 16, 2007 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 16, 2007 1:29 pm)
If you're asking about how much oil the extractors get versus a conventional draining of the oil via the pan plug, I too was wondering about that when I first got the Pela. After draining both of our vans and my 530i the first time, I pulled the plug and got maybe a thimble full of oil, certainly not enough to make much of a difference. I haven't pulled an oil pan plug since. 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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- #1234 of 1297
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Re: Suction device - Re: How far a car go without oil??? [shipo]
by imidazol97
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Oct 17, 2007 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 16, 2007 7:22 pm)
Thanks. That's what I've wondered about. My nephew uses a pump for his VW diesel. I wonder whether he's leaving a small % of residue oil. Probably not meaningful in volume!
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To Make Less Of A Oil Change Mess
by traumer
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Oct 30, 2007 (10:28 am)
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I'm thinking of using a permanent quick change oil plug like Fumoto Valve to make less of a mess. Do any of you use it? Is it ok for me to use or should I just use the regular oil plug.
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Re: To Make Less Of A Oil Change Mess [traumer]
by rowlandj
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Oct 30, 2007 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: traumer (Oct 30, 2007 10:28 am)
Depending on the vehicle I use a Pela Oil Extractor like the one used on marine engines. Even less of a mess and great if you have easy top access to the filter.
Have not been under my car for an oil change in some time and often change between intervals because it's just so easy.
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Re: To Make Less Of A Oil Change Mess [traumer]
by flaaveo
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Oct 30, 2007 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: traumer (Oct 30, 2007 10:28 am)
I have been looking for one of these to fit this cars oil drain hole. Where did you find it? Is it one with a cable you attach to the car on the top of the engine bay,so that you don't even have to get under the car to open the valve? Or is it the type you have to crawl under and open the valve? Is it made of brass? If so, it should be ok.
What does it cost? I would trust it, I was going to get one for several of my trucks that I have had, but just didn't do it. BUT I hear they are very reliable,as long as they are brass and have a gasket to make a VERY tight fit. Please tell me where you found it and how much,if you don't mind.
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