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Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Exterior, Interior, Truck
#4 of 23 Betcha it ain't.
Sep 03, 2003 (5:44 pm)
Several reviews have noted that the F-15o transmission is optimized for towing. Others have hinted that the Titan is faster away from a stoplight. I infer that the Titan is not a 3/4 but a half, and that it's oriented towards "life style " owners rather then "work truck" owners. I'd wait for some detailed reviews before I committed my money to a Titan, if I was bent on serious towing. Your nickel.
#5 of 23 The Titan
Sep 05, 2003 (3:39 pm)
is a half ton. It's tow rating is 9400 lbs. if press releases count. It also seems as if it is flirting with the work truck group. I am not sure what to think of the computer controlled throttle but I guess it is the wave of the future. I like 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks so I am still not interested. yet.
Sep 06, 2003 (1:38 am)
Titan looks like a neat truck, that'll challenge 1/2 ton market. But you want to tow a 9K lb 5th wheel with it? What's the pin weight of your fiver? Thought that a fiver usually puts about 20% of its weight on the pin = ~1800 lbs. While you haven't exceeded towing capacity of the truck, by the time you put passengers, their gear, and gas in the truck, you've probably exceeded its payload capacity. Titan would probably be able to pull the rig, but I'd bet that you'd have some long term wear/reliability problems with suspension components and tires, not to mention some handling issues. If I'm pulling a trailer and have my family with me, I prefer to have a fair margin of safety available in my vehicle. JMO, but I think you'd be much better off looking at a real 3/4 or 1 ton pickup if you're gonna do a lot of towing.
#7 of 23 Titan Statistics
Sep 06, 2003 (2:10 pm)
.... treat'em with suspicion, like any other statistic, until verified by test drives, 3rd party testing, and a year's worth of user comments here after the start of general retail sale. this isn't peculiar to the Titan, or Nissan, just a healthy caution about advertised stats. The only thing that the Titan offers on paper that I'd like to see on an F-150 is a 5-step automatic transmission,and that's hardly a salemaker or salebreaker.
Sep 07, 2003 (6:58 pm)
When I camped, I used a tent in the trunck of my car, but at campgrounds I never heard anyone with a trailer say they wished they were pulling with a smaller truck. People always seem to add to what they bring along each year. Don't go with a truck that is barely adequate the first year.
#9 of 23 wpolkowski
Sep 08, 2003 (7:07 am)
I currently have a travel trailer weighing 5000 lbs dry and tow w/ Jeep Gr. Cherokee V8 (max towing 6500 lbs). We would like to move to a fiver that weighs 7400 lbs dry, w/ a hitch weight of 1400 lbs. Adding passengers and cargo would keep me under 9000 lbs. I am looking for a tow vehicle that will do the job, but would still give me a "decent" quality ride during non-towing driving. I was hoping the new F150 and / or Titan would meet those requirements.
My wife will not trade the Jeep for a truck. She just doesn't want to have the image associated with driving a truck. (I don't blame her). So, if we get a truck, it will have to be me trading in my Infiniti G35 for a truck. Which is why I want a decent riding truck.
Sep 08, 2003 (12:08 pm)
You can forget any 1/2 ton truck, or Titan whatever size it is. On paper, the truck may be able to tow that 7,400lb fiver. However, by the time you take the ACTUAL WET weight of the truck, add in yourself, passengers, gear, and the hitch weight of the fiver, you'll be way over GVWR. The GVWR would have to be up near 8,000 lbs on that truck for you to be within spec.
There are many weight ratings on any given truck. But the three that you need to be most concerned with is GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating), GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) and GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating). The GAWR is the max that can be loaded onto that axle. The GVWR is the max the vehicle can weigh. The GCWR is the max both the vehicle and trailer can weigh. If you go over anyone of these three, then you are overweight.
#12 of 23 Truck Image by neaudi
Sep 09, 2003 (8:30 am)
"My wife will not trade the Jeep for a truck. She just doesn't want to have the image associated with driving a truck. (I don't blame her). "
Sorry can't let that go without asking you to explain. What truck image? The function over form practicality perhaps.
As opposed to the grand Cherokee (nice suv btw) which for most owners never gets within 10 miles of "off roading", seats no more than a sedan getting nearly twice the mpg, etc. etc. At least the truck says "useful, practical, modest, etc."
Lastly, the new F-150 claims over 9,000 lbs max GVRW in most configurations
Sep 09, 2003 (11:09 am)
You surprised me with the 9,000 lb claim, so I went to Ford's website. They are listing an 8,200 lb GVWR for all the Styleside configurations. I was shocked at the 9,500 lb tow rating and 15,300 lb GCWR of the 5.4 with 4.10 rear end. WOW!!! I just can't believe it could do that without sitting on its bump stops.