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Brakes, Car Warranties, Sedan
Sep 03, 2003 (10:07 am)
These work just fine providing they use the right one.
Same thing applies to torque wrenches. a lot of shops use the same setting on all cars.
Either one of these is a whole lot better than an impact gun.
Sep 03, 2003 (10:15 am)
I wonder if those big 30 X 9.5 tires and wheels can affect rotors?
What do you think guys?
Sep 03, 2003 (10:44 am)
I don't think rotors were thin enough to warp back in the day when you were a manager at Sears!
I think rotor-warping is a relatively new phenomenon, that started around the time that they came out with those 2-piece rotors. Easier and cheaper to replace when they do fail, but still more prone to failure.
What about the few cars that still use drums on the rear...are they flimsier nowadays than they used to be, as well? For instance, I was kinda shocked when I found out that the Ford Taurus only uses 8.9" drums on the back. Heck, my '69 Dart had 9" drums, and with a V-8 you got 10". And a Taurus is going to weigh a lot more than a '69 slant six Dart!
Sep 04, 2003 (7:02 am)
A lot of measures are being taken to reduce weight/costs and increase gas mileage.
I just know that some drivers NEVER warp rotors. Some people can go 80,000 miles on a set of brake pads while others go through them in 20,000.
I'm sure the thinner rotors contribute to the problem but I still say the DRIVER is the main factor.
#19 of 24 Back when...
by div2
Sep 04, 2003 (1:01 pm)
I had my 1988 M6 I could drive it on the track all weekend and still have 50% of my pads left. I had a friend with another M6 and he used up one set of pads PER DAY-and while he was a little faster overall, he wasn't that much faster...
Sep 04, 2003 (1:51 pm)
What is missing from the GM Bulletin is the paragraph under pulsation. This says if the pulsation is reported between 3000 and 7000 and has got worse, it will be covered. In other situations ask the owner if they have had wheel service. If they had, it could be the result of runout, or improper torque of the lug nuts. If a dealer did the work, pay for it. If an outside source did the work, then it is not to be covered under warranty. So as far as GM, rotors are covered if it is GM or one of their dealers fault. Since almost everyone will have the tires off by 7,500, GM is off the hook in many cases.
Sep 04, 2003 (6:28 pm)
I wonder if those big 30 X 9.5 tires and wheels can affect rotors?
What do you think guys?
You mean on trucks?
I run 35" tires on my 4x4 right now.
I had 38" gumbos on for a while, but stepped down.
I haven't seen warpage of rotors because of large tires and alot of the trucks I see are running tire sizes from 30"-44" tall.
I see more wheel bearing problems than I do warped rotors.
Sep 05, 2003 (7:38 am)
Yeah, I was thinking of the tires on the Wrangler.
I've never warped a set of rotors either, but it justs seems unlikely that this warped rotor epidemic is due only to bad driving habits. Seems like we've always had bad driving habits.
Sep 05, 2003 (11:27 am)
Yes - I've had all sorts of cars, including an M3 a few years ago that I used to drive pretty hard - never a problem with the rotors. Now, on my latest car (a 2001 Maxima) I am on my second set of front rotors, and need to resurface them again, badly.
#24 of 24 they probably did it badly the first time ;)
by swschrad
Sep 05, 2003 (8:47 pm)
once they're warped, you aren't going to polish it out.